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Hi, I have a 1985 20 foot pontoon with 19  inch tubes there is no boat capacity plate. It only has a 30 HP Johnson motor I would like to upgrade to a 2012  40,50 or 60 HP Johnson all weigh the same 240 Lbs. it would be a 2 cycle. Johnson is going to run a new promo starting in December through March
What is the biggest I could go? the 40 HP is about 1800.00 cheaper then the 50 HP. I do not want a used one.
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Iboats says that boat has a max HP rating of 70 HP.  The 1985 70 HP Evinrude's and Johnson's were 230 0r 250 LBS.  Provided your boat is in good condition it appears you're in the ball park.
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gotta give it some serious thought about a 2 stroke vs a 4 .
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If a 4 stroke is possible, check the 4 stroke's weight also.
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Originally posted by Barnmb7117 Barnmb7117 wrote:

Hi, I have a 1985 20 foot pontoon with 19  inch tubes there is no boat capacity plate. It only has a 30 HP Johnson motor I would like to upgrade to a 2012  40,50 or 60 HP Johnson all weigh the same 240 Lbs. it would be a 2 cycle. Johnson is going to run a new promo starting in December through March
What is the biggest I could go? the 40 HP is about 1800.00 cheaper then the 50 HP. I do not want a used one.

Do you mean Evinrude (BRP)?
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What is the promo going to be?  
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Yes it would be an evinrude. 4 stroke weigh more. It is suppose to be the same deal as last year per my evinrude dealer. Free install, free controls, free ss prop and free gauge and I think he said extended warranty. Last year this deal ran Dec through March. Evinrude also has no maintenance for 3 years
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Yup.  Evinrude E-Tec.  I've got a 90HP E-Tec on my boat.  Wonderful engine.
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Originally posted by Barnmb7117 Barnmb7117 wrote:

Yes it would be an evinrude. 4 stroke weigh more. It is suppose to be the same deal as last year per my evinrude dealer. Free install, free controls, free ss prop and free gauge and I think he said extended warranty. Last year this deal ran Dec through March. Evinrude also has no maintenance for 3 years

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  Just curious  as to what transom your riviera cruiser has. Is it the adjustable or fixed transom? Mine originally had the adjustable rated for 40 h.p. but the dealer originally rigged it with a 50 and it held up for 27 years before I got ahold of it ! My capacity plate was also missing but I received the original sales literature for my boat with all the specs. I will say that I don't know what differences there are between a 1985 and my 1983. If your going to get a motor and they all weigh the same I would get as much power as you can ! Keep us posted and share pics when you get the new power plant !!!
 
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My transom is fixed.
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i would think the torque of the engine vs weight on deciding on what motor to purchase 50 hp 90 hp big difference there. my .02 cents.
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I would not put a 90 HP on it. Like I said 40, 50 60 Max.  a 90 HP weighs in at 320 Lbs compare to 240 Lbs.

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not weight but the torque . older transom might fold under or bend with hi hp high torque engines just a value to consider you could proably hang 700 lbs on a transom and be ok but the thrust could would do damage .
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I didn't mean to imply that he should get a 90HP.  The point was that Johnson doesn't make outboards anymore.  The line that he is interested in is the Evinrude line of E-Tec motors... and I happen to have the 90HP unit (I-3), which I feel is a fine engine.

The 40HP, 50HP, and 60HP E-Tecs are the same basic engine (I-2) with the same basic weight.  The largest mechanical difference is that the 60HP has valved water injection in the exhaust to tune the expansion chamber "timing".  BRP has been using this technology for decades on their PWC engines (RAVE).

The E-Tec line of engines has a strong, excellent reputation.  They are "clean burning" EPA certified 2-strokes with excellent power-to-weight ratios.  They still "burn" oil though, and you have to take that into account when figuring the operating cost.
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Evinrude just posted the new deal on their web site Free rigging. System check RPM gauge, Harness, remote control, stainless steel prop, oil tank included also a 5 year extended warranty. This deal is from December 17 -March 31, 2013.
 Now I just have to decide if I want a 40 50 60 HP. A 40 HP is about 1800 cheaper the a 50


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I am guessing the 40 is a different base motor with that much of a difference in 10 h.p. What is the weight difference between the two ? If it's lighter and you'd be happy with a 40 I'd go for that. How much more is the 60 than the 50 , price and weight ? Sorry for all the questions just asking what I'd be asking myself !
 
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All three  are 240 Lbs each.

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It looks like I am getting the 50 HP 2012 $6700out the door includes everything including a new 6 gal fuel tank and hose. The 40 HP would of been $6200, and the 60 HP would of been $7230. If I wanted a 2013 add $350 to each price. He said the 50 HP would be 2-3 more MPH then the 40 HP and the 60 HP would give me the same MPG as the 50 HP. He also offered me $350 for my perfect running 1985 30HP Johnson This year he replaced the whole water pump kit on it.If anybody is interested in the 30 HP make me a deal it is at my summer home in Weyauwega, WI
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