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    Posted: 03/20/2012 at 7:51pm
not a good start to the season.... in anticipation of the upcoming season, I was taking advantage of the 15-20 degrees above normal temps. I had a new water impeller put in and new spark plugs... took it to the launch yesterday to run it and make sure things was running good... and they were... ran great in fact... took it back to the storage yard and parked it, didn't notice anything unusual... didn't feel like heading straight home, so I swung into the yard to tinker and noticed something didn't look right, walked to the back of the boat and yikes!! keep in mind I back it into the spot that abuts a fence so no one could have hit it...








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OuchOuch Might be better to heli-arch that thing back on or add some support.
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First thing I noticed bad - was there ONLY 2 bolts holding that thing on?? It shouldn't have torn through that support UNLESS it was the ONLY thing holding it on. Transom should have been bolted to NO LESS than 2 cross members if not more (preferably 3 at least) and those supports shouldn't be more than 12 inches apart (16 tops in my opinon). I'd need more pics of that transom, but it looks awful lightweight for that motor.
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Think its time to strip off the back, add more supports (heavy duty aluminun) and maybe even a new transom designed for heavier motors. Just from what I can tell, that transom was designed for no more than 30-35hp motors.
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it is supported by 3 cross members, didn't measure the distance between them tho... and i count 8 bolts total.... 2 in the front, 2 in the middle and 4 in the last section... the transom received no damage, only the cross members...

what I was thinking, only a thought open to suggestions, thought about bolting a piece of 2' angle alum. or angle iron to the cross member and rebolting the transom to that, does it have to heli-arch or would bolting it work... don't have access to a welder and from what I understand it can be expensive to have some one come in to do it... plus it seems everything else is bolted as opposed to weld... I guess my thinking is to bolt the angle metal to the cross member with 4 or 5 bolts so it distributes the weight a little bit more then just at the point where the transom is bolted on...

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So all 4 crossmembers were torn like that one in the pic?? That's generally a sign of fatique with too much weight.

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   If you want to bolt it for now thats fine ,but then take it to get welded. If you can run it right to a shop it won't be much at all. With out seeing it in person I can't say exactly how I would fix it but once you get it to a shop they can advise you as to what they reccomend. Definitely not something I would want to find. Beef it up and you'll be good to go again !
 
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So what's the status of this now?
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i picked up some 2"x2"x1/4" and bolted it into place at each cross member, rebolted the motor in place, took it to the welder, told him to weld it where ever they feels it should be, he said he feels it'll be good after they are done with it... also took 2 12' pieces of the same angle alum. and bolted it down each pontoon and bolted the new cross members in place to it too as well as to the other cross members, and they are gonna weld those 12' lengths to the pontoons...  as for the transom, that didn't give out at all, but I am gonna be checking into replacing it with a new one at the end of the season, unless there is another issue... looking into prices of adding a smaller third pontoon with the transom built into it, with either a fuel tank built in or maybe a gray water storage tank built in... 

will post pics when i get it back from the welder monday or tuesday... not sure of prices where others live,but he is charging me $64/hr. I thought that was very reasonable... said it should be around $200-250 unless they run into to something funky...

also, I am not a big lake user, more of a river putt-putt type guy so I don't see the transom getting the wear and tear of people that go out on lakes and hitting big waves...


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Little cheaper rates where I am (unless you go to a big marine store) but the main thing is as long as you're satisfied with the job
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update: so I dropped it of at a welders on 4/18... they said the first of the following week...called him on the 25th... gee, sorry, been down to 4 welders even I am working in the shop instead of the office...will be another week... so I waited and waited... no call as of the 2nd. so I called someone else, he said less then a week once he gets it and no more then $200... so I went to the original welder to see what was up on the 3rd., he said still down to 4 welders and a big job has come in so everyone has been tied up on that,and it would be a week and a half to 2 weeks before they could get to it... so I said I can't wait all summer and I hooked on it and hauled it outta there... dropped it off at the other welder and we were looking at the transom and he said there is a few spots that needs some TLC, so for the same $200 he will repair it enough to get through this season and when I am ready to replace the transom, come talk to him, he will do it for $350 including the transom... thought that was a fair price so unless something happens before the end of season I will do that in the fall... still waiting for the call saying it's ready, but I have faith in him being on the up and up hoping tomorrow or Wednesday for the call...
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OK Joe,
 
Your last post was 2 and 1/2 weeks ago.  What's the current status of your repairs?  Are you going to be able to use it this weekend?
 
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I noticed something else very important:  Your steering cable is now bent in a TERRIBLY short radius in the pictures as it enters the steering tube...  It's probably holding up the engine?  It could fail early now; no question in my mind, and I have changed maybe 100 steering cables in my life.  Some mechanic cheated and made a "too short cable" work by turning out from atop the log early and taking a shortcut to the engine.  You need about a 3ft longer steering cable so it makes a nice, smooth radius bend into the engine tilt tube.


Edited by 25xs - 06/05/2012 at 6:27pm
Adding a third log to make your 'toon a tri-toon is a no-brainer...
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