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    Posted: 06/17/2014 at 4:49pm
Only had my 18' buggy out twice and I'm learning that it's a little tricky to load.  I can shoot it right on the trailer, but that darn back end slides over and ends up off the bunks.  I understand the trailer guides are the way to go but unsure which model to go with.  

I do like the looks of the ones on this site, but worry they may not be tall enough when on steep ramps....how close do they get mounted to the toon? I've also seen the ones that have PVC tops, which appear to float up a bit when submerged.  I like that some of those can have lights installed to help with night loading as well.

What seems to work the best?  I'm half ready to go get some steel and fabricate my own.  I did install 2x6 bunks recently, I'm hoping that'll help some!

A few other random questions on loading/trailering these things!
- If it's sliding over, is the trailer being backed too deep?  I know with time we'll figure it out, but I hate being on the ramp any longer than possible.  I don't want to be one of those people!  With my other boat, I'm on, hooked up and gone probably under 3min from when trailer hits the water and with the pontoon I feel like I'm there forever trying to get her sitting on the trailer correctly!

- What about towing?  The boat didn't come with rear tie downs or even anywhere I can easily find to hook some on.  Any suggestions there?  So far, I've been towing without, but I don't like that!

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Brian,

I used to have the same issue. One thing that helped was truck tires no deeper than the edge of the water. I used to have the crapper round spinning guides on mine. I was usually off by 3 inches or so and trying to relaunch and reload. Then a someone at the ramp showed me a trick. WE had pulled up to let the ramp clear some before we tried again. We were off be a good 3 inches the toon was sitting on the outside board. Well this guy and his buddy come over and say watch this put the small of their backs against the toon stood up and nudged her on perfect!

Ever since we just pull up and adjust at the top of preparation zone the same way. I did just put on the guides from here and they make a huge improvement. The two times we had it out we were only off by an inch.

My trailer has eyes on the inside of the brake lights. You can kind of see them in this pic. I don't have straps on it here, but put the straps right between the bunks and up to the eye at the top of the toon.

I know I need to get my new bunk carpet on!

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That is good to know, I'll have to give that a shot next time I'm out!  

I don't have eyes anywhere on the trailer or the boat, but I've been looking at how they were installed under the bow for the winch hook up, which is just some stainless u-bolts through a floor rail, backed by some wood.  I'll likely duplicate that setup in the rear and I suppose I'll have to bolt or weld some sort of hook on the trailer frame rail.  

I hate to say this setup doesn't come from this site, but I do like it. http://www.etrailer.com/Boat-Trailer-Parts/CE-Smith/CE27670.html .  Problem is my rear trailer frame rail is only 1" wide material, so not sure how well any of these will bolt on and stay straight.  I believe they say the tubing on that guide is 1-1/4, which is already wider than my trailer!  Might be time to run to metal yard and brake out the welder!!
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Just re-read about the ones from this site and I guess that comes with 4 guide posts...that's a little easier to stomach, especially since two of my front roller posts need some work!

I'm guessing they mounted ok to your rear trailer rail?   .....looks to be the same as mine!
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They mounted great! I thought I took pics, but the camera hosed out on me... I will try and get some this weekend. They are worth the money in my opinion. Reminds me I need to review them!
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My trailer came with nice guide on posts mounted between the toons so I am lucky in that regard. It did not come with rear tie down straps and the dealer said I didn't need them because of the weight of the motor. Kinda Scary! How many of you guys use or don't use rear tie downs when towing.
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I personally  tie down the back just for a mr. Feel good ,,but have towed it without
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personally i like this type wind guide.  Not too many originals on trailers.  i have to rework and make mine from the usual vertical padded or roller kind.  My trailer has the tie down point just inboard of the tail lights as this one does.
  
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With some of those last posts, makes me wonder if I shouldn't make some horizontal guides instead of a verticle guilde.  Although I have two roller guides on the inside up front.  Hmm....

For the tie downs, I think I'll buy a couple of stainless bow eye u-bolts and go from there.  I don't think my motor is enough to weigh anything down!
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My trailer has similar horizontal guides as P3cflyr's. They work well I have just rebuilt that trailer and will post a pic of it soon. I had a seventy fourstroke on it before the rebuild and never tied it down on the stern. But always put an extra line on it up front.

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Originally posted by RcgTexas RcgTexas wrote:

My trailer has similar horizontal guides as P3cflyr's. They work well I have just rebuilt that trailer and will post a pic of it soon. I had a seventy fourstroke on it before the rebuild and never tied it down on the stern. But always put an extra line on it up front.

Would love to see a picture, they always help with ideas!  I did add a bolt on the winch platform, that allowed me to get the winch strap coming from a lower angle, I think that should help.  It also has a cable that attaches to the bow eye for backup, but of course it has a foot or so of slack, but it's a nice backup!

I have a set of stainless bow eyes on order, so when they come in, I'll mount them on the stern.  They might have to be about two feet in from the very back because it's underskinned near the transom, but any tie down point has to be a bonus!
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