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    Posted: 02/14/2012 at 6:41pm
yeah, something I've picked up from another forum - trailer bling of sorts. Several of us I know have modified our trailer lighting, etc. I thought I was pretty fancy with my lighted pole guides LOL (and it does look good), but one problem I had initally was I couldn't tell if my trailer lights were working or not while traveling. It was sometimes hard to see the pole lights so I needed something easier to tell. Did that with the square amber LED's on the front of the fenders (those I can easily see in the mirrors) as I forget a lot of times to strap on the tow mirrors (or mount them to the sides if I use oblongs for front of fenders).
 
 
For the back I get the wally world special red oblong LED's for additional lights on the back and amber ones for the front side (or sides).
 
 
So anyways, decided to do something special for my Nitro trailer rig besides adding LED lighting - adding LED backup lamps as well. Since I have a 7 pole to 4 and 5 connector, I found a 5 connector 54ft (split - think he's counting total feet so 27ft each side) with 6ft of blue wire. I'll just add more blue wire to it to run to the back of the trailer. Found these on ebay they are surface mount units.
 
 
 
and got these LED units for brake and signal (little more expensive than the usual squarish ones)
 
 
Those puppies put out a lot of light and don't have to worry about bulbs blowing if they get wet. Gonna fix up the Glasstream boat trailer for my brother too (without backup lamps).
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Nice bling! Like those backup lights, but pretty pricey..Smile
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I didn't think so, the pair was only $34 with shipping. Although there were plenty of others selling for that much or more for a single lamp.
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I really like those back up lights also!!!! I talked about them before to my wife, saying it would make backing up the toon at dark so much easier but never went any further...I'm going to do some trailer cosmetic work after I finish my toon, one of the main things I wanna do is paint and add some diamond plate fenders and some diamond plate strips on the front of the trailer for some added bling! Next on the list is lights, I have all LED already but I'm going to add some extra lights down the side or on the fenders like ya say. I'd also like to add the backup lights...do you have any info for wiring them up?
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Lighted cupholders, now trailer backup lights.....its time for an interventionLOL
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why of course Wink 

You'll need a 7pin round to 4/5 flat adapter (you'll be using the 5flat) like this one. I like the ones that have led indicators telling you that all's good in testing the connections. Right now I have one just like the pic below as I gave my brother the better one earlier last year
 
 
Then a 5flat wire harness like this, a 4flat will also plug into a 5pin flat on the vehicle end, you'll just end up leaving the 5th pin exposed on the vehicle side, the 5th pin will be the blue
 
 
 
The wiring diagram for the 7 pin round has a blue wire for the reverse (lockout for electric brakes) which we'll use for the backup lamps (since it works off the reverse circuit). At this point I'm not sure if we need a relay or not. Vermillionfox I think had something once on this or somebody else can comment for sure. Otherwise when it comes in and it EVER quits raining so I can crawl around on the muddy ground I'll find out by trying it.
 
 
I got my 5pin trailer harness pretty cheap on ebay
 
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Originally posted by Wildcat Dude Wildcat Dude wrote:

I didn't think so, the pair was only $34 with shipping. Although there were plenty of others selling for that much or more for a single lamp.
 
Ahh, the ones I was looking at were almost double that for one light. That is a good deal...Thumbs Up
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Sure does thanks, I'll have to pull this back up when I get ready to do it!
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Charles, one minor word of caution with those LED lights for you trailer. I mounted a set like the bottom one of your group and I had one come loose on the freeway. The bolt heads just slide into those slots and if not properly seated (and tightened down good) they can slip out and let the light fall. One of mine wasn't properly seated (it was cross ways in the slot) and I didn't realize it. But I do have to say those are some tough lights. I have no idea how many miles I dragged that thing down the freeway, hanging only by its electrical wires, but it still shined brightly when I turned it on (or applied my brakes) even though one end was completly worn away!
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My two reverse lights came in today from ebay but thought I'd warn ya of the wiring scheme since it doesn't come with one and it might throw some of you less experience folks on wiring. It was a very good deal in my opinion and seems ok for the price. Would have loved chrome but hey, for 34 bucks can't complain compared to the ones that are 3-6 times the price. So for installing this even though it says its a flush mount, you'll need at least a half in hole for the protruding plug at the back of the unit or you'll need to modify a mount (which I'm considering). 
 
 
The mounting surface is 3.25 inches by 7.5 inches. In my case my rear rail is only 3 inches wide so going to have a buddy weld a mounting plate on the back of trailer for the lights but have them standoff by 1 inch so the plug and wires can pass through unless I can drill a hole and successfully pass a portion of the wiring harness to the rear. Still waiting on the 5 way harness to arrive.
 
 
Now another warning for those wanting to wire this up. The black wire IS NOT THE GROUND wire, the WHITE wire is the ground. Both the Black and Red wires are power leads, use either one. I'm figuring on using both leads to one power source (the blue from the trailer plugin which is reverse).
 
 
As you can see, there's only 4 mounting holes (reinforced holes). It says it doesn't need a gasket, however I'm going to make one anyways I think. If you want to see what it looks like lit up, let me know within a week or you'll have to wait until I get them mounted Wink
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Nice looking lights!
 
I really like the wood trimmed back surface!!!! LOL!
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Oh its just a cheap imitation laminate LOL 
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For those of you considering putting backup lights on your trailer, its a real pain on a box frame trailer but those galvanized C channel type trailers its VERY EASY. I also got a couple of links to 7pin round to 5pin flat flexible connectors. Me and Les both bought one (I got 2), he got his from a BPS store and I ordered mine online. He paid 15 and I paid 11 plus shipping of 2.99 so I saved a buck (and no tax), but waited a couple days to get mine where he burned gas but got it right away. So here's where I got the flexible 7pin round to 5pin flat Link#1 <-- this one has a 16in lead between connectors and a different style Link#2 <-- this one has a 5in lead between the connectors. In hindsight I wished I got the 5in model, HOWEVER its twice as much at 19.95. so the 16in is the best value for the money is its all molded. You can plug in a 4pin flat to that 5pin connector
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Just wanted to say THANKS for the help in finding the link to this subject & the info you provided on the phone Charles. I knew you had posted this info before but I wasn't able to find it. I was using the wrong "key word" in looking for it. I ordered my LED backup lights offline right after talking to you & they should be here by Thursday. They are going to be a BIG help in me seeing to back up my 275' driveway at night. 
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Why would you want to covert it to a 5 pin when you could just use the 7. It would be cheaper just to put the rv plug on the trailer and not have to worry about an adapter that can cause problems later.
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My truck (2002 Dodge Ram 1500) came with a 7 pin round from the factory. I need backup lights for my 2 pontoon trailers but not for my utility trailer. Plus I pull other trailers that do not have backup lights or brake either. BY putting the 5 pin flat plug on the pontoon trailers & using the adapter I can very easily plug into any 4 wire flat plug. One adapter takes care of all my needs & make it simple for me. Others might find it easier to go as you are suggesting. 
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Same with me, my trailer has the 7pin plug but ONLY 4 wires in the mold and I don't want to cut the molding just to add a wire so for that, I bought a 7pin trailer harness that included the fifth wire I need for later, adding reverse lights to the pontoon trailer when I'm ready unless I see the light at the end of the tunnel (or darkness) and sell the rig in a couple of years when the wife is no longer able to get on the toon (ain't no fun going on a toon by yourself). Also if the trailer isn't yours, then what, you just can't connect a 4pin flat to a 7pin without an adapter unless your tow right also has the 4pin adapter. Adapters don't usually cause problems, all my problems have been with the factory 7 pin (broken vehicle harness connector to the 7pin was one problem I had to have fixed) 

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Hey Charles, would you see any problem with dunking these lights in salt water? And would you recommend disconnecting the lights before backing in? On of the ramps I use is very long and shallow, I have to back way in to get the boat on and off (like all the way to the bumper on my truck) and that one is salt water. If I disconnect the lights the connectors will be underwater!
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Well since those lights have sealed connections, the only weak point is the wire connection and I use heat shrink butt connectors that has that gel in it that seals when heat is applied. So I'd say no and that's the whole reason I went to LED's is to NOT have to unplug them, so I never unplug now. On the hookup to the vehicle, just have dielectric grease on the connections, but doesn't hurt to rinse after a soak but I assume you have a galvanized trailer, but your grounds could be an issue at some point, so check periodically I would think would be the norm. Maybe Brian or some of the boys on the east coast could elaborate on their techniqes, as its been YEARS since I launched in salt water and always had to unplug and flush constantly and rewire almost yearly.
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