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    Posted: 05/16/2018 at 10:19pm
where could i get that aluminum from?
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I used two 1/2" pieces of aluminum sign board glued together with construction adhesive.  Each piece is two thin pieces of aluminum with a plastic honeycomb between them.  It was easy to work with and strong when doubled and standing on end.  I am happy and would do it again. 

I have new graphics I am installing I think.  Still working on it.

 
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I love your rebuild.  Do you like the woven teak vinyl flooring?  I was considering the same for ours. Mostly I wanted to know how you did your walls?  We just tore ours out and at a stand still trying to find a source to purchase a good replacement for the walls.  Any info on that would be great!  Oh, and I love the graphics idea, really ties it together.  We are also considering black fencing with white cabin and I wasn't sure, but seeing yours I like it. 
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Originally posted by kenbob62 kenbob62 wrote:

can u give some details on your head/potty setup,is it a self contained unit or do u have a holding tank under deck? does it have dock pump out feature?

I don't know what MorganH went with... but you might want to take a look at the SeaLand Traveler 711.

It's a pretty good choice for the Party Cruisers and Huts.
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can u give some details on your head/potty setup,is it a self contained unit or do u have a holding tank under deck? does it have dock pump out feature?
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Beautiful work!

Very, very nicely done!

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Thanks for the positive feedback guys.  I have been asked to put some more finished pics up, so here is the maiden voyage for 2017.





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LOVE that Teak tile deck!
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wow that looks great!Clap
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You know, I had carpet on the back sun deck, and when the pad was laid out, it covered the entire carpeted deck, thus holding the water and creating mold.  I needed a sundeck that would not hold water, and would still look nice when the pad was folded in half, in "normal" mode.  I removed all the carpet from the sun deck, then added drains, the epoxied both sides to waterproof it.  I then added the "teak tiles", and created an edge that would hold everything in place.  I am pleased with the way it turned out.
  



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Right!

It's not prudent to run the thruster current through the dash switches.  My dash switches are "joysticks" with micro-switches that probably can't handle more than 3A.  They in-turn fire the coils in 50A DPST contactors.

It's the "right" way to go.
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I finally figured out a new thruster configuration.  Because I moved my entire battery bank to the stern of the boat, which made them much further away from the switches and the bow thruster, I needed to run 2 awg wire to the thrusters and switches due to voltage drop. My wire run to the switches and then to the thrusters was going to be over 50' long.
Solution, I found this relay (below), and changed my switches from the "motor reversing switches", to just "mom on / off / mom on" (below).  This way, I can run 10 awg or 12 awg wire from the switch to the relay, and I only have to run the heavy wire, approximately 30', from the battery bank and through the bow relay, and I will get max power out of the thrusters.  I will also not burn up 30A switches from the heavy amp load going through them.  Here is the relay, switch, and wiring diagram I am using.






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Originally posted by Morganh Morganh wrote:

Yes.  I am using a 12v thruster, being fed from a battery bank of 4 deep cell batteries.  Because I am using 4 batteries, do I still get the voltage drop over 20 ft?


Yes. The number of batteries doesn't matter.
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Yes.  I am using a 12v thruster, being fed from a battery bank of 4 deep cell batteries.  Because I am using 4 batteries, do I still get the voltage drop over 20 ft?
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Two part answer:

1)  Unlike in the automotive industry, using the metallic "frame" of a boat for current-carrying applications is forbidden... against the ABYC standards, "wrong thing to do", etc., etc.

2)  It will probably work just fine due to the nature and construction of your boat, and the fact that it is an "intermittent duty application".

"It would be best to run new conductors".


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Yes, you are correct, the voltage drop at 20 feet with a single 8 gauge copper wire is 1.26 volts, and with 2 8 gauge wires is only .63 volts, not this is assuming a 50 amp draw and using a singole battery for 12 volts. You are using a 12 volt thruster, correct?
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Can I get some electrical advice please.  Blocker, you out there?  I have a thruster in the bow and one in the stern.  The bow thruster is about 10-12 feet from the battery bank, and the stern thruster is about 20 feet from the battery bank.  I have a positive and a negative 8 AWG wire running to each to operate the thruster motors.  I have changed out the motors to 55# and need good amperage to each, so my question is.......
Instead of ripping out and rerunning bigger wire like 4AWG, can I not use both wires I already have run, as positive, in other words have two wires, both going from positive battery to positive thruster, and then just ground the negative from the thruster to the boat frame?  The battery bank is grounded to the boat frame. Would that not essentially give me twice the amperage capacity over the long wire drop?  
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And I forgot one new upgrade as well...............graphics.  I have really struggled with this.  I wanted something unique, yet classy, that gave a good relaxing , island feel.   This is what I think I am going to do.  After it is applied, I am going to add just a touch of color within the design, as my wife directs.  She is the awesome decorator and knows exactly what is enough color in the right places.


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Here is the layout of the new flooring with the woven vinyl teak.

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Finally pulled the beast out for the 2017 winter upgrades.  I am tackling ripping out the old floor in the front and putting new floor down, replacing the front carpet with the vinyl woven "TEAK LOOK ALIKE" that I did on the swim platform, adding a massive light bar on the front roof, adding RGB lights all the way around the toons, adding LED cup holders in the front to match the LED accent lights, taking off the thrusters and upgrading them to new Minn Kotas that have 55# of thrust each, and reworking the plumbing to the head.  

Just a few little projects.  Here are some photos of the floor ripped up in the soft spots.  I am adding some reinforcing floor braces around the high traffic areas.

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Will do on the new thread.
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Why don't you start your own rebuild thread it will be easier for us to see and comment.  Good luck on the rebuild.

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Hello from southern Arizona!
Have been getting soooo much great info from this thread. Hoping I can leverage some of your experience as I dive deeper into a rebuild on the '95 PC 32' that I bought recently. Deck is almost clear, with only the genny and tank to be removed. Next up is re-decking the front. Not planning to re-deck under the cabin. And then replacing the roof panels and carpet.
I am following the conversation about cabin wall replacement and wonder if y'all can advise at what point the PC walls ceased to structural elements in the design. With a '95, I am assuming my walls are structural, which worries me. They show signs of water damage. So I am planning to replace them but have not decided yet what to use. Any updated advice on the best material to create the new walls with?
 
This what I started with.
 
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You can buy a penetrating marine epoxy/sealer,if the wood is not to soft. I used it when I rebuilt my cabin on the floor and it seems to be working well. But on the deck it may be more cost effective to Hut put new wood down.
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I am tearing the grey carpet out of the front this winter, repairing the wood floor, and applying the woven vinyl, "Better Than Teak" that I have on the swim platform.  I love that stuff and it looks great.  

Question.  When I tear the carpet up, I know I have some bad spots on the old floor.  I really dont want to replace the whole floor.  Is there some type of liquid wood, or wood filler, or something similar that I can put down to firm up the floor, level it a bit, and make a nice base to apply the glue to for the new flooring?
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Thanks Blocker.  Plowing the center toon was a concern of mine as well.  I might jsut drop it one inch more. test it, and continue with another in a few weeks if it needs it.  I need to watch the effect on the center tune front.  

I also added a little water to the the back port side extension, to offset the new granite counter tops on the starboard side, and it leveled her out nicely.  I might add a little more to each side, to loose some of that excess buoyancy in the rear.  Hate what its doing to my speed though.  I'm a turtle,  but don't want to be a snail.  Cry
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The simple math says that this will certainly give your more buoyancy, and it will move your center of buoyancy forward... which is what you want.

BUT.... just moving one toon "down" 4" with a taper will give you less buoyancy than you might think.... probably only in the range of 300 pounds.  And you *might* run the risk of plowing the tip of the center toon.

If it's easy to do, it's probably worth a try.  But I don't think it is going to give you the dramatic change that you are looking for.  It's not going to offset the 700+ pounds of buoyancy that you added all the way at the stern of the boat with your extensions.
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OK.  As I mentioned in an earlier post, I am riding really bow heavy, especially when I have 6 adults and 8 kids on board.  I outlined three fixes and am going to use a combination.  Need advice on this one.  Am I crazy?

I installed my middle pontoon.  25" diameter, 20' long.  To install it, I bolted a piece of 5/4 pressure treated lumber to each side of the pontoon mounts, and then bolted that through the aluminum floor joists.  This dropped my middle toon down by roughly one inch.  Still have front weight issues.  For more bow lift,  I need to drop the front of the toon down, without dropping the back much.  I want all the lift in the front. 

To accomplish my goal, I am thinking of taking the center toon off, removing the 5/4 board, then buying a set of long 4/4s, and cut them from 0" to 4" thick, for the length of pontoons.  This will effectively drop the front of the toon 4" and taper to the back where its depth will match the depth of the outside tunes.  This should, in my pea brain, make it act a bit more like a v-hull in configuration.  Front center bow  toon will be lower in the water than the outside toons, which should give the front more lift.  

AM I CRAZY?  Help.  I'm about the pull the trigger and do it.  If it doesnt work, its just another 3-4 hours to switch it back.  Speak now or forever hold your peace.  
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ClapClapClap very nice can you post more pictures?
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