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Well the temps just aren't going to be warm enough to lay the carpet :x :x So we are going to clean the rails and put in the new transom. and just do some clean up of the lots and I got a leak in my water heater from the cold *inappropriate language not permitted* winter I need to look at...
I am getting ready to cut the boards now. My question is how important is fiberglassing it???

THE FLOATER is never on the water more than 8 hours. Do you think if I use liquid nails and screws that would be good enough?

The previous owner just put the two boards together and bolted them in.

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Probably a good idea to wait for warmer weather to do the carpet as you wouldn't want the cold to bugger up the adhiesion. It would be alot of work to fix it. As for the transom I would think that the liquid nails and screws woulds suffice. Once you bolt the engine on the bolts will help hold it.
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Even though the old one was sagging it was a *inappropriate language not permitted* to get out!!! My initial measurements were almost perfect I had to trim less than a half an inch....

The toon cleaning didn't go so well I think I will try one more bottle. The front and very rear look good the rest black streaks I know I should try and sand them a bit.

Next weekend may be a go on the carpet....high 60's to 70's.. :prayer :prayer

We put a whole tube of liquid nails and 20 screws to join the two boards that transom is going no where!

WE got most of the leaves burnt as well!


 
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Some progress is better then none!  Wink
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Well boys looks like the carpet is finally going down!!!! My daughter has her last gymnastics meet of the season this weekend for State Championchips, so I will be taking vacation on MOnday and Tuesday to put down the carpet. 80 both days and low of 60. I will be flying solo so we will see how that goes. I hope to have carpet down by noon on Monday and Ill try and clean all my rails while it dries. Then start on console, wiring and rear seat section on Tuesday. Wish me luck!


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Good to hear. I hope things go good with the carpet and good luck to you daughter in her competition.
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Thanks Stomper!! We are hoping for top 3 in the state... I'll let you know how she did.
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Good Luck girls....I have twin daughters that did competive cheerleading for many years....Boy I sure do miss those days...They turned 20 today, wish I could do it all over again!! Keep us posted on how they do!!
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I wish they had stuff like that up here where I live in Canada for young girls. My daughter would love that. Wish those twins a happy birthday fatdaddy.
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Well,
Cassady took 6th overall out of 18 in her group. She is the State Champ Runner up in Vault with 2nd place.
Off to the lake I went.
Got the carpet laid rails up and seats built!! :nana It was definitely not fun.... Well being at the lake was good all the solo work not so much.
Trying to get the carpet wrinkle free on my own was a super pain, but I finally got it. I did notice one little section with some defects but I think either the table or seat mount will hide it. The rails were kind of a nightmare for one person to do. I went through 5 drill bits and luckily my last one made it through the day. I hadn't even thought about drilling through the rub rails and the frame for each whole. I only had my ryobi rechargeable drill. Should have taken my electric high speed...
I went through 6 big scratcher pads on the rails. While they don't look perfect they will do for now. I will have to do some work on the sundeck it extended over the back of the old seats a little and since the new ones are taller I had to pop it off to line up all the seats against the rear rail. I will eventually recarpet and re-wood the sundeck anyhow.
Some where along the way my measurements were off... I have exactly an 18 inch gap at the long end of my rear group I think I may get another lounger and that way I will have a rear facing one.
The kiddies got me a top mount controller with tilt and trim switch built in. :nana :nana It is really sweat, and the T/T wires were exactly the same color codes as the merc wires I tested it and works like a charm, as well as the Neutral safety switch. I ran out of time to do any actual wiring, so I did not mount any of the seats or the console just put them in their places.

I forgot the new cover of all things!! :nutkick :nutkick
After putting the rails all back together I was only less than an inch from being exactly were the old ones were. The snaps didn't quite line up at the bow.

Oh well if it gets wet it is a boat right???
 
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Looks great curtis!!Clap
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Everything is coming together nicely sir! Must be nice to see the fruits of your labor paying off! Good work.
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Congrats to your daughter for her placing in the competition and also to you for the work completed on your boat. It looks awsome. I cant wait till I am that far along. 

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Thanks guys!!

I probably have 2 more days of wiring and seat placement and we should be getting close! Not sure what to do about my nav lights??? The old ones had a one inch wide raised base because of the lack of room on the rub rail. I ordered new ones from PS not even thinking about there not being enough room for them... I may swap them out with the side mount ones, or just reuse the old ones even though they will look funky with almost everything else being shiny new!



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Lookin good!  Personally I would get some side mount LEDs, and you would be set!
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I am thinking along that line also... Thanks for everything Ty!
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Congrats to your daughther on doing so well at state....Rails cleaned up nice IMO...Love the new controls, very nice!! I agree with PS guy on the lights!!
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Thanks FATDADDY! and For those of you that put batteries in your new deckmate seats did you create any kind of vent? I always unhook mine once back at the lots so its not like they are hooked up 24\7.... My old seats just had a small 3 " round vent on the end.Ermm

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Curtis I wonder if you really need vents....I doubt the seats are air tight...LOL....a small vent would be easy to install on seats, if you feel you really need it!!
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Thanks FatDaddy! I didn't think I did just wanted to check what everyone else was doing!
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If you use a sealed battery you don't really need a vent.  OR, you an always drill holes in the toe kick area for venting.  You can't see them from out side the seat, and it's FREE!
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Great idea!! FREE..... I have always liked FREE and really APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO!Beer ONE DAY!

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My sidemount NAV lights and my rear facing lounger got here yesterday! Thanks James!
 
Will be down on Saturday to try and get ALL seats mounted and wiring ran....
 
OH MAN That mean's I get my garage back!!LOLLOL
 It has been full of seats and parts since this thread started!Wink
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Man we are getting close!!!! The seats are all mounted except for one which is were the livewell will go. We didn't have a small enough drill to cut the hole for the spigot. The lean back fit perfectly in the extra space! Thanks James! Console is mounted and steering and controller cables are hooked up. Batteries are in, Stereo (2 speakers) and fish finder are wired, we are getting there! The damn tree pollen was *not allowed* me off, I think I'll have to get a vacuum just for the toon carpet! Speaking of the carpet that stuff is so thick it took me an hour to put the four bolts in for the captain's flip flop chair. I drilled the holes in the floor for my bolts and then couldn't find them because the damn carpet sealed back up! :nutkick Zach had to go under the boat and push a bolt up from the bottom for me to see the holes. :oops: The cover was kind of interesting too. We started on either side and used a strap at each loop by the time we got to the back we only had two straps left.... so we kind of rigged it... It is supposed to cinch down like a girdle and I couldn't figure out how. Does anyone have a similar cover? I haven't look to see if I could find detailed instructions yet, I think we got it pretty close though. I have the old poles that I used I put carpet scraps on each end to not jack up the cover or the new carpet. I want to eventually do something similar to Loyds pvc poles, but this will suffice for now. We ran short on time with it being mom's Day celebration that night, so we had to come back home. Rear rub rails look brand new now!
This Saturday we are doing a 5k run that finishes on the 50 yard line at Arrowhead stadium, home of the CHIEFS! Then its back down to finish this *inappropriate language not permitted*! A lot of tidy up wiring, hooking up the gas tank, building the bimini, front captains chairs, table holes, new ladder mounts, livewell and rebuilding the sundeck... Damn my list is bigger than I thought.... :coffee
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Well we got alot done, but once the gas tank was hooked up FLOATER no start... :x:x:x:x:x After troubleshooting I have no spark in any of my cylinders.... I suspected the stator and once I saw the burnt connectors I figured for sure??? How the *inappropriate language not permitted* do you get the nut off the shaft to get to it????

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New ladder on, ezfenders on (sorry no close up today), NAV lights on, livewell in (hidden thanks to Ryan)!, all radio connections done, my measurements were way off and would only fit one bucket seat up front and haven't figured out what to do yet for the other.

We had a suprise storm overnight and it stained the seats with tree pollen :x:x:x:x:x:x Magic erasers rule!!

If anyone knows about the shaft nut let me know, or if it could be something besides the stator.
 
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Stator received and Regulator coming today....wish me luck!
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Well Good news and bad news........ :x
The cover works awesome!! Lots of heavy rain last week and no pooling and carpet was dry! :nana

I am still frustrated so going with condensed version. :cry:

I started unhooking the REgulator and noticed two of its wires were melted together... Damn these barrell connectors suck!
I hooked up the new Regulator first since it was the easiest. Still won't fire. AFter 3 hours I got the Stator replaced air impact is a must for removing the flywheel!!! and a ratchet strap around the flywheel to keep it from spinning. We even had to use the impact on the puller bolt.... I was very careful on this one to make sure nothing was bending etc... ONce stator replaced still wouldn't fire!  I spent the next hour looking for any disconnected wires and wouldn't you know I found one unhooked. Still wouldn't start... At this point started looking at the console wiring and damn two wires hanging from the ignition switch... I know I unhooked them all without labeling!!! I go over to the old console and look at the where they could have been hooked up. Well there is no kill switch on this model but at the very bottom corner of the controller hidden by the throttle is an off\run switch....Really 4 years and I had never seen this before! I got it pulled from the old controller and wired to ignition switch. Still wouldn't start.  Went over to my Bro's place just ticked. Sent my SIL to get me some brews and my bro came back with me and said smells like massive gas have you cleaned the plugs??? So we clean the plugs let them dry  and she fires up!! Put it on the hose and she ran like a champ for 15 minutes. Forward,  reverse,  fast throttle, slow throttle, Tilt works great alright! I call the admiral to make the call to everyone She is running come on down for the weekend. I turned it off and decided to figure out why the tach has been reading 7k  from the time I hooked up the console on the boat. I look for loose wires at the tach and couldn't find any. Try to start it and nothing. After 30 minutes ignition switch won't do anything not even a click. I make the call to tell everyone forget about the weekend. The tilt and trim gets its power from the ig switch and now it doesn't work. It will if I bypass the hot with an accessory wire.. I use my dc tester and all the hot wires to switch now read ground and ground reads ground, only one thats hot is the tach wire in the ig switch. *not allowed*! With the burn marks inside the switch case I am guessing it is the switch if not the only thing left is the switch box 250 bucks! I will start with the 30 dollar switch. I know at this point we should take it in, but with my step daughter getting married money is a little tight... I can't get back down till the end of June now. Needless to say frustration has set in! :x

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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AHH!!!!  I feel your pain.  You might have more than an ignition problem though.  Your toon looks awesome by the way.  Love the colors and configuration.  I have found that on my boat, years of splicing from other owners has caused all the electrical problems and I have had to go back to the basic harness and rebuild all the wires, connectors and configurations which, luckily, has resolved all of my issues thus far.
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Thanks Kyle! I actually found a "new" old stock switch harness on the net that looks to be plug and play. I am hoping to get it next week. It should solve my problems..... maybe...
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