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New guy here.  Been a fiberglass boat guy my whole life but with a little one now in the mix I have decided that a pontoon is the only way to go.  My new boat is a 1996 LOWE Fun N Fish 225 with a 1996 50 hp Evinrude 2-Stroke.  I knew when I bought it I wanted to replace the carpet and change the seat layout.  The seats aren't horrible (compared to some I have seen) but I am going more family seating.  So in my searching for parts I found PS.  WOW! Then I found this forum...bigger WOW! Now I am so stoked to get started I can't contain myself.  

I moved the boat from the storage to the driveway yesterday and plan to start the tear down today. Finally got some good weather her in So-Oklahoma!!

Here are a few question for the group as I begin filling my cart on PS.

1. Do the seats come with mounting hardware for attaching to the deck or do I need to purchase?  I don't see  "seat mounting hardware" on the site so I was curious.

2. Does anyone have any experience with this particular boat?  If so, are there any special things I should be aware of?

Not sure if I will have to replace the deck or not.  It has been stored covered or inside for its whole life so I will have to see.  I bought the boat off my father-in-law and he tells me the guy he bought it from said he had never had to replace a deck on a LOWE.  Not sure what the difference is but...Probably just a good salesman!!

I will post some before pics as soon as I resize them. 
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They now include the mounting hardware, It is taped inside.
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OK, here are some photos.










OK.  There she is, in all of her 1996 glory!
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Thanks Barnmb7117!
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Your pontoon looks really clean and in good condition. Good luck I just got my pontoon last year because of Grandkids. I also just got a 1998 50hp Johnson to install on it.
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Looks like fun....She looks to be in good shape Thumbs Up
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Thanks skyzepplin!
Well, little progress to date. Started pulling off a few things. I have to say "Thank you Lowe" for using all stainless hardware. Nothing rusted! Also glad deck is good cuz I have the dreaded 5x8 first sheet. What is up with that anyway? Oddly enough, one of the hardest things I have removed was the seat posts from the mounts. Evidently been awhile since they had been pulled.

Anyway, took some time off this week and hope to finish the tear down. A couple of questions:

First, I have read a few places that you should get all the old glue off and others say just the high spots. What does experience tell you?

Second, I have seen where a floor belt sander was used. It tha prob the best way?

Also, what is good to clean a Bimini top with?

Just looked at furniture again. Argh! Should have ordered two days ago. Oh well, still seems to be the best stuff by far!

Thanks for all the help. I will get some more pictures to share.




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On my last pontoon I had a similar old glue issue and the belt sander worked great!! Yeah I would hate to try and find a 5 x 8 sheet of plywood...LOL...If you did replace deck, I am sure you could figure out how to use 4 x 8 sheets...I actually had to use a saw zaw to get up my seat bases...they were bolted down and the nuts were so rusted you could not get a hold of them!!
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Alright everyone.  Need some advice here.  It is regarding these drains:
 
 
I can't seem to be able to get these out without destroying them and a couple of them there is no way to get to from below without removing the decking. 
 
So, one, maybe two questions.  First, since I will be adding the railing spacers do I really need these.  I am thinking "NO" but would like some other opinions as well.  If the consensus is "YES" then the next question is Where would I find them?
 
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Sand them smooth and carpet right over the top is an idea or maybe fill them it some how and then sand them smooth to the deck level!! They seem so close to the rail, I don't think they will get alot of foot traffic.
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maybe filling them with expanding foam would work to keep water from splashing up into them.
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Yes, they are right against the rail and they will actually be under the sundeck.  Thanks for the input fellas.
 
Well, had some time this weekend and got her ready to sand!
 
 
Have to wait till I get a good weekend but since all the furniture came in along with the console I should have a few things to keep me busy!  Got a few hole to fill too where the table and two rear fishing seats were located. 
 
Have a great week everyone!
 
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Ok, been a while since I updated anything. I decided to re-skin the fencing. Turned out pretty good. I will try to post some pics tomorrow. I still have one section and three gates left but almost done. However I think I just caused myself a problem. I need some advice.

I have the 5x8 first sheet which I have done some light patching on to prep for carpet. Feel pretty good about that. I decided that since some of the 4x8 sheets delaminated in spots and were a major pain to sand I would just replace. Called several lumber yards and found one that sold AB marine grade 7 ply for $79 a sheet. I bought 5 sheets. Now my problem...it is not treated! I started reading tonight and realized that marine grade and CCA marine grade are not the same. Should I try to return it or is there a way I can use it? This might be an expensive lesson! I am not sure if I can return it even. Thanks for any advice.

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I might call lumber yard and find out how the wood was treated (which process) and does is react with aluminium...I used a similar product from a lumber yard here made by scotch that does not react with aluminium....I would think that if they are calling it marine wood then it has had some sort of treatment process!! If not you can build some really neat doghouses with all the wood... LOL...Hopefully you will be able to use the wood A side up, at $79 bucks a sheet that stuff was treated somehow!
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I would check with the manufacture and see what they say.
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Ok, I haven't posted an update in quite some time. Been having to do little here and there. Got the deck down yesterday. My original plan was to not re-deck but after a few minutes with a belt sander I decided it was worth whatever it cost! Only problem was the 5x8 board. I first thought I would leave it...turns out it was 5/8 thick and my new is 3/4. So, I ordered a piece of aluminum rectangle tube (only thing in stock anywhere that was 1 1/2 x 2 1/2). Now I have a whole new deck with a 4x8 and a 1x8 in place of the 5x8 board and with the 3x4 and new aluminum it seems even stronger than before.
I will put some pictures in here in a bit when I get them off my phone. I do have a question, if I lay carpet today is it ok to cover with a tarp tonight so that it doesn't get dew on it or in case a shower pops up overnight?

Thanks all!

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You should be ok..as long as temp is over 60! I would tent the tarp also so its not sitting on the carpet.

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OK here are some of the pictures I promised.  I hope to start mounting fencing and more today...if the rain will stay away.  We need it bad...but, well you all know what I mean!

This was test fitting the new cross brace.



This is the completed re-deck.



And here is the carpet.  OK, this was harder than I had thought.  It probably would have been easier with help but hey, it is what it is.  I ended up with a couple of wrinkles but the biggest part will be hidden.  Kudos to all of you who I have seen lay this stuff flawlessly.  I will say the 28oz carpet is awesome!  Glad I went with it!



I will post some pics of the progress today.  Have a great day all!!


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OK, here are some pics from today.  Rails mounted, console set, seat bases set up.  Oh, and my awesome carpet wrinkles!  Custom!

I was originally going to paint the rails and decided that I didn't have time (or patience) so I replaced it.  I like the color and the way it turned out.  The aluminum was .032 so it was pretty close to factory thickness.  A little difficult to work but I really like the color.  I hope to put seats together and build sundeck tomorrow. 







One interesting thing I discovered.  Since the original deck was 5/8" and the new is 3/4", and the thick carpet, my rub rail is now about an 1/8" to small.  I will trying to figure how to deal with that that tomorrow.  I think I will try to "motivate" it to fit first.  Has anyone every cut off the bottom lip to make it work?  I am open to any suggestions!

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Lookin good!  And yes, you can cut the bottom lip.  I have done it before with a cut off tool, it's time consuming but it works.  If your pontoon railing bolts don't go through it you will want to use a bunch of SS screws to make sure it stays put.
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Looking great!! I had a similar problem on my last pontoon and I was able to gently tap on with a rubber malllet...you could cut carpet back a hair, as well.
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Looks good.  Is that railing the "Indigo" color?

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I too have a question on the fencing color,looks beautiful! I too have a Lowe I'm doing some work on including fencing. Just took her out for the first time this weekend. What a great weekend. But I'd like to work on the fencing, including painting it a similar blue to that.
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Thanks for the complements and the ideas. I am definately going to try work the trim on but if I have to cut then so be it I guess!

As for the color it is the indigo blue. It really has a lot of fine metallic sparkle in it that really comes out in the sunlight. We are really happy with it too! The place we got it from (another online retailer) only had it 12' lengths so I actually have a seam on the back of both rear "horseshoes". I will get a picture next time I have the cover off. I just overlapped the two pieces and riveted with the color matched rivets. Rain / storms the next couple of days so I don't expect to get too much done. When it starts to get close it is hard to look out the window at it!!

Thanks again for the nice complements!! Have a great evening!

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OK, I am in need of some professional opinions.  After taking the cover off this morning I found two spots on the carpet in exact opposite corners in the back of the toon.  A picture of the worst spot is below.  The carpet has been down about 2 weeks.  



If feels like it is melted but looking closely it almost is like the carpet is gone and only the rubber backing is gone.  I got no idea and it is crazy that it is in the exact same spot on opposite sides.  What say you???

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On a positive note I did get the sundeck finished!



I also got the captains seat (aka fishing seat) mounted.  Tomorrow (yes, taking a day off work!) I will mount the two fishing seats up front, bolt the arm rests to the seat bases, install lights, wire it up and hopefully start it on the muffs!  

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There's no reason for spots like that to just "pop up".  It looks like some thing hot fell on it.  Were you grinding or cutting any thing?  I had a hot bolt fall on one of my projects and melt some carpet.  I took a scrap piece of carpet, dabbed some clear silicone on the burn, then patched the spot with a tiny piece of the scrap.  It worked great!


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