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LOL, I didn"t notice it! Cute!
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This pattern of ribbon and stars is what I was originally looking for but couldn"t find something already designed.  Does your decal guy sell these graphics?
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Sorry Linda!  That"s my own design.. it"s copyrighted, trademarked, and I"ve filed for a patent!! 

Of course you can use that design, but our boats can never be seen together!

I know that Chris can/will sell you a roll of that pattern, already die-cut and ready to go... on a backing sheet.  But, of course, you"ll have to apply them yourself.

Knowing Chris, he"ll probably want a picture of your boat and some dimensions.. because he will custom craft them for your specific layout.  A few EMAIL"s back and forth and you"ll have it nailed.

PM me and I"ll give you his EMAIL address.  But please, contact him as soon as you can.. if only to show interest.  I haven"t paid my bill yet and your "re-use" of my pattern might earn me a break! 

P.S.  I went back and looked at your thread on removing the old decals.  20/20 hind-sight told me that I could have had him print the pattern on vinyl coil (flashing) and I could have put that over my old fencing.  That same hind-sight tells us that he could have printed the pattern on the vinyl covering that you used before you applied it!  Ain't that the way it always works!


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You got me with that crazy patent stuff .  I will be sure to apply them just a little differently so we will not be twins or Big Daddy and Little Lounge.  You are right about that hind sight stuff .

We found a new way to remove the decals and glue but haven"t had a chance to post the pics, I found my lost camera!!   

I REALLY like your entire design.  Very Very classy!!  How much did this set you back if you don"t mind me asking?

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Linda,

We do a lot of business with the graphics place, and part of this project was a personal favor.... so my exact dollar figure isn"t accurate or relevant.

If I"m not mistaken, the industry average for a UV printed, multi-color, 1 square foot of INSTALLED vinyl graphics is about $16.  "Install it yourself" is probably a bunch less, although I don"t know the figure.

I spent yesterday putting the main windows back into the cabin.  They are a "necessary evil" for this boat, else the interior of the cabin is WAY too dark most of the time.  And I say necessary evil because they "broke up" the design a bit and we lost a few of the big stars.  The wife was none-too-happy about that, but she also came up with the solution.  She makes her own semi-transparent "window clings", and she is taking the sections of removed material and using them as a template for interior window clings so we will see the rest of the pattern "through" the windows.  Should work out really well!
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Well!  I finally made some progress . 
Highlights include:

Installed this pretty slick toilet paper roll holder (I know, it doesn"t take much to get me excited).. but since the head doubles as a shower, wet TP is always a problem.  This new unit is not only O-ring and rubber-lip sealed.. but when you open the "door" it unrolls about 3 sheets worth of TP.  When you close the door it rolls it back up again!  Slick!

The TV got a bump in size from a 15 w/DVD to a 19 w/DVD.  I went to the store *just* to get a digital converter box......

Installed a piece of Starboard under the microwave.  After a couple of years we have learned our lessons.. and we know that coffee always runs behind the microwave.  Hopefully this elevated "island" will reduce that probability!

The air compressor got a serious upgrade in size last year.. but I never posted a pic of the new unit.  That PUMA 12V unit is sweet and has served us quite well!

The underpinnings of the new SONOS audio system are installed and it works well in conjunction with the existing Jensen/Klipsch setup.  The heart of the SONOS system is the Fujitsu tablet computer, which essentially serves as the music server.  I load the server with a 32GB thumb-drive... with the music files being copied from our home system via a script.  The tablet talks to the rest of the SONOS system via WiFi.. through a router to the rest of the Zone Players.  So far.. so good!

With all of the other major work, I was finally able to reverse the direction that the rear door swings.  From the factory it would swing "out", which would block access to the top deck ladder when you were in the stern.  That ladder has become quite important now that we have the slide.  By reducing the width of the door (so it wouldn"t hit the head door) I was able to configure it so it swings "in".

And I threw in a shot of the AIMS 1250W inverter that has faithfully powered all of the 115VAC stuff (including most of the stereo) on the boat for a couple of years.  This is its last hoorah, since I have acquired a 1800W true sine-wave unit (Xantrex Prosine) that I hope to be installing in a week or so.

More to come!


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That is just incredible!  You could move in and live there!
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Excellent! Where did you find the washdown station for the bow? I was wanting one for mine but the ones at Bass Pro, etc go thru the deck and that wouldn"t work good
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Originally posted by briankinley2004 briankinley2004 wrote:

Excellent! Where did you find the washdown station for the bow? I was wanting one for mine but the ones at Bass Pro, etc go thru the deck and that wouldn"t work good


Brian,

HoseCoil makes three different versions of their enclosure (if I"m not mistaken) and every once in a while you will see them on eBay.

But... looking back over my records.. it looks like I got in a hurry and bought those on-line from C-ME marine.
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Thanks for the info.
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Originally posted by DLCulbertson DLCulbertson wrote:

Another WOW!  What a floating palace.

Did you remove the sectional toons when you added the large center toon?



Dave,

I didn"t completely remove them.  After I installed the new 3rd log I still wanted to add some buoyancy to just the stern of the boat, so I took a couple of the toon modules, added the nose-cones, and put them in the very back between the existing center transom/pod and the original outer logs.  This helped to compensate for the weight associated with the slide.. and the activity that comes from having a slide back there!

That"s the beauty of having the modular logs... I can use as many sections as I want, and put them almost anywhere.
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"Hey Scott, so what holds up the deck with your new walls, just the laminate and foam core walls or did you add extra bracing? I see what looks like two new pieces of aluminum tubing between the 4x8 panels, what exactly is that and how thick is it?"

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Good eye.  I didn"t want to rely on the new panels for the structural support.  I thought it was a bad idea and I was surprised that Tracker went that way in the first place.

In between the new panels I installed 1x1 (inch) square vertical tubes which have 1/8 inch walls.  That material was available at the local hardware store.  On each side of those tubes I attached 1/8 inch by 2 inch flat stock using flat head recessed aluminum Pop rivets.... creating my own "H" bars.  Very, very strong.

I wanted the 1/8 x 2 flat stock to be anodized.. and had a really hard time finding that material at a reasonable price.  Then I stumbled upon aluminum straight-edge rulers, which were the perfect size, anodized, and available in 8 foot lengths at a very reasonable price.  Perfect!
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Heya B!

I"ve been workng pretty mch non-stop on the PC for the last 72 hours and it"s just about time to post some new pics.  The interior has received a major facelift, and it"s looking pretty good. 

The head and the shower run off of the solar tank mounted on the roof.  The sink runs off of the cold fresh water tank mounted under the galley counter with its own pump.  And the washdown system and slide run off of a lake water pump mounted back by the engine.  I don"t have cold water in the head and I don"t have hot water in the galley.  Next year when I replace the roof with an aluminum one, I think I"m going to get rid of the solar tank, mount one large potable tank(s) somewhere, add a 6 gallon hot water heater, and deliver both hot and cold water to the galley and shower.  But that"s a "next year" project!

Yes, the Onan plugs into the original power panel.  I"ve added an automatic transfer switch of my own design that integrates the inverter into the mix.

The only battery that is currently in the back of the boat is the group 24 for starting the outboard.  There is a small AGM battery up by the Onan for starting the generator, and the three group 27"s are up by the helm.  I put the group 27"s up by the helm because having them back by the engine in the port compartment really threw off the balance of the boat... too much weight on the port side and too much weight in the stern.

Whenever possible we try to run completely off of the batteries and typically only fire up the Onan when we are using the stove, running the A/C, or when the wife is running a bunch of electric appliances (griddles, fondu pots, whatever).  The Onan is pretty quiet, especially now that the "up exhaust" has been installed, but it"s still makes enough noise to "ruin my solitude".

The batteries will get us through a full day on the water... including running the compressor, water pumps, and cranking the stereo(s).  If we spend the night on the water I will crank up the Onan before we sack-out and let it run through the night to recharge the system.  And this is where I mention the need for having a really, really good CO detector!
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The solar tank is noting more than a under-belly wedge black-water tank.  The stock gray ones from Tracker work just fine, but the model that was on my `92 was too tall to go under our bridge.  They used a shorter model in the later years, but it was cheaper and easier for me to get the black water tank.

I understand your position regarding the mini-blinds.  Is that what you currently have on your PC?  The factory one are the "special" marine/RV type that have the tensioning cords that run down the length... which anchor to the wall.  In all honesty, they"re pretty good and work well.  I just couldn"t find anybody that made them in RED! 

I ended up going with Bali cordless 1-inch aluminum blinds, and then I modified them so that they don"t rattle.  The modification involves laying some Velcro  "loop" down inside a groove in the existing window frame (you can"t even see that it"s there) and then putting some Velcro "hook" on the backside of the bottom rail.  I also use the Bali hold-down clips at the bottom.  When the blinds are fully closed and the clips are being used, the Velcro eliminates the noise that would usually come from the blinds hitting the window frame.  If I want the blinds partially open, I stick the bottom rail to the loop on the window frame.  It works quite well!  The other option was to fabricate a valence "surround" for the window like Tracker does on the newer models.  I thought I"d give the Velcro a try before I invested time and money into creating the valence surrounds.

If you are interested in a set of the factory tensioned blinds in gray, my old set is actually in pretty good shape and should fit all of your windows and the stern door perfectly.  I was going to clean them up and put them on eBay one of these days.

The only thing that is stopping me from taking the pics right now is that there are wires and tools all over the interior of the boat and it looks hellish!  I"m working on a lake-wide WiFi repeater setup so I can run Pandora and internet radio on the boat.  At this point I basically have it working.. but it has taken some VooDoo, two routers, and some custom software......  It"s amazing how these projects sometimes spiral out of control!
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P.S.  If your aluminum fence panels are "bowed" out, that"s a dead give-away that your wall panels are shot.  When the panels decay, they lose their structural rigidity and no longer support the upper deck properly.  The "H" bars between the panels are bolted to the upper railings of the fence panels.  The weight of the top deck pushes the H-bars down, causing the top rail of the fence to deflect, causing the panels to bow out.  You will see that a lot on PC"s from the early 90"s.

You can see the light reflecting off of the "bow" in the following picture of my PC before the walls were replaced:


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Heya Dave,

No, not really.  The stock center stern log from Tracker doesn"t have deflectors on it, so well-installed under-skinning is a must.  I made some cockpit errors the first go-around and lost a small section of the FRP under-skinning in this section.

Besides this, it all works well. 
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You have inspired me with your vinyl graphics... AWESOME!
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Scott---

How did you attach the vinyl coil to your fencing (I think that"s what you used but correct me if I"m worng), and did you do anything to accomodate for expansion? 

PS I love the Sun "Blocker" lol. 

 

 

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Jenn,

If I had to do it over again I would have used the vinyl coil.  I got my butt in a jam and decided to change the color of the fencing just a day or so before the boat was due at the graphics shop.  There just wasn"t enough time to acquire and install the coil.

So in the end, I masked the whole thing off and went with paint.  I may come to regret that decision down the road.
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Thanks Scott---It looks great.  i am sure that paint will be just fine. 
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B,

The structure for the platforms was made from bolt-together aluminum extrusion.  The material that I selected is manufactured by Bosch.  It is anodized and it comes in a number of sizes.  Bosch also carries gussets, hinges, "slot filler strips" and all kinds of other accessories for their "Erector Set" components.  It is also available in black-anodize.  You can set up an on-line account with them and order direct.  We use the stuff a lot at work, so I got most of mine there.

Most of my main structure is made from their 30mm x 60mm rail, with other components being fabricated from their 30mm x 30mm rail.  Some other minor stuff was also made from 1/8 inch thick aluminum "angle"... either 1x1 or 1.25 x 1.25.

The beauty of the extrusion for me was that I could cut it "on-site" using a standard miter saw (with the appropriate blade) and bolt all of it together.  No welding required.  The fact that the material is anodized is also a big plus.

The decking material is composite UltraDeck that I got from Menards (special order due to the color).  I looked at a lot of the composite decking material and went with the Ultradeck due to its weight and thickness.  Toyed with using aluminum decking (which is what I am going to use for the roof and main deck replacement), but decided that it was going to give me grief in this specific application due to the small size/shape configurations.
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Well, as promised, I cleaned her up enough to snap a few pics.  I posted 5 or 6 up on my web site, but I"ll toss a couple of the "highlight reel" shots here:

This shot shows the new walls from the inside, the new couch/bed, and the color-coordinated mini-blinds.  You can also see the Fujitsu tablet computer.



Here we can see some more of the interior.  The reworked galley, the new TV/DVD player, one of the Sonos controllers, and some other odds and ends.



The long window on the rear door is going to cause me some grief now.  The mini-blinds that I ordered for it aren"t going to work and I"m going to have beg and cajole the wife-unit into making some other form of window covering.  Our married life is based on the bartering system, and I"m concerned about what I"m going to have to give up to get it!
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Your A/C unit looks like the same Carrier unit I bought on ebay. And installed in the same place.....Where did you get the back door/window? I cut down some $90 storm doors from lowes but not sure how long they will last. That window with blind trouble would match my scheme perfectly if it were white. Love the galley. I traded mine for bunks. Is the flat screen 12volt?
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Awesome job, Scottbee.  Looks very comfortable.  Job well done
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Very nice..
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Originally posted by briankinley2004 briankinley2004 wrote:

Your A/C unit looks like the same Carrier unit I bought on ebay. And installed in the same place.....Where did you get the back door/window? I cut down some $90 storm doors from lowes but not sure how long they will last. That window with blind trouble would match my scheme perfectly if it were white. Love the galley. I traded mine for bunks. Is the flat screen 12volt?


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The A/C unit is the low profile version.  Don"t know if yours is or not, since most of the models use the same interior section. I had to get the low profile for bridge clearance (the original Coleman would hit).

The back door/window is the original Tracker window... and I built the door.

The TV/DVD is 115VAC.  So are many of my stereo components (Klipsch).  The barge has a 1800W Xantrex Prosine true sine wave inverter on-board to handle those duties.. and a 4KW Onan generator for when the house batteries (3 Group 27 Deep Cycle units) give up the ghost.
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I don"t know if mine is low profile or not but my generator is above the a/c at 13ft. 4in. I am not sure what the maximum normal height it but I have been told 13-6in. This is for road use. As far as bridges I have not run into that issue on the lakes I use much as most have ramps on either side or have few to no bridges. How long will the flat screen run on the inverter? I have found some 12volt ones but they are pushing 400, but again a 120V version and an inverter may run me that much or more. My sound is 12 V and since I listen to old twangy country and 70/80"s stuff as long as I can hear it I"m ok.
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Brian,

We"ve got a bridge on our lake that is 9-3in off of the water.  Everything on the boat was designed to "just clear" that sucker.  That"s why I needed the low profile A/C unit, had to trim the ladder handles, and had to put the TV antenna on the pneumatic actuator.  We go under that bridge 1 to 2 times per day when out on the water, and it added an interesting design twist to the project.  That bridge is also what keeps larger boats off of our lake.  The launch ramp is on one side of the bridge, and the main lake is on the other.

The TV draws about 60W, which isn"t much.  Quick-math says that I could run it for a couple of days off of my battery/inverter combo before having to recharge... if the TV was the only thing that was on.  Of course, that"s never the case.... and with the compressor, water pumps, stereo, lights, microwave, and other things running, we"re good for about 9-10 hours.
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Originally posted by BsCabin BsCabin wrote:

Scott, does your boat still have the original carpet or did you replace it while the walls were out?


Original carpet, all the way through.  It"s in surprisingly good shape too....
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