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Hope you put a pic of that up when it is installed.  Very interesting.  Big smile
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is the front of it closed off somehow???
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Yes, I'll be fabricating a transitional nose piece that will blend up into the log nosecone. That will be an interesting exercise in sheet metal fabrication.
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A little teaser pic of where I'm going with this:



Most of the sheet metal fabrication is done, but there is still a lot of welding left to do!
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That is interesting.  looking forward to the results.
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Think of it as "lifting strakes on steriods"....  LOL

Actually I'm doing it for the additional buoyancy.  I don't expect the "strake" factor to have much of an effect on a 40' pontoon that can only break 15MPH when it is going downhill....  but you never know.
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Yep, additional buoyancy was the reason I added a center tube.  And well worth it.  Didn't help my downhill speed either.  LOL
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And like I really need another project....

The "console fairy" dropped this off for my kids boat the other day:



I've already installed the "flush mount" shifter, battery, horn and navigation lights.

I'm trading in her 15HP tiller for a 20HP remote/electric start.  I still have to work out the details on the ignition harness.

She doesn't get a stereo......  (this year).  Wink
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Ready for welding!!




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As I sit comfortably in my robe drinking my coffee... I get to spy on my welder "gettin' her done".


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Well, he got all of the welding done (12.5 hours of welding spread out over a couple of weeks):







But when I put pressure on it, a few of the plug welds didn't hold.  Apparently we didn't have good penetration into the old log (underneath).  Those plug welds are pretty critical, if they don't hold the new overlay can "unfold".





Going to have to "burr" those three plug welds out and re-weld them.

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No big deal, lake is still frozen anyway....  Cry
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You may want to suggest to your welder that instead of circular plug welds he use slots. For example, drill 2 each 3/4 inch holes approx 2" apart on center then remove the material in between the holes creating a slot 2&3/4" long. This will allow more weld along the straights w/out any cold lap issues that are common in plugs ( which is probably why yours failed)
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Originally posted by sceman sceman wrote:

You may want to suggest to your welder that instead of circular plug welds he use slots. For example, drill 2 each 3/4 inch holes approx 2" apart on center then remove the material in between the holes creating a slot 2&3/4" long. This will allow more weld along the straights w/out any cold lap issues that are common in plugs ( which is probably why yours failed)

I agree (and so does my welder!).

I'm going to burr out the existing plugs today, and undoubtedly the holes are going to get enlarged.  Want to be careful not to go into the base material (original log).  Then I'll either convert them to slots, or "connect the dots" and make a full seam out of it.

It's cold and nasty outside so this minor setback doesn't bother me.
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Try inserting small wedge between the original tube and the new material after you get the failed plug cleared out. Even a piece of 1/8" material, grinded down like a chisel on one end, inserted between the two a little ways will give you enough of a gap to protect the original tube when cutting.

 

Setbacks are all I've known this winter. That's why I haven't posted anything new lately. Hopefully this weekend.

 

Still have ice on the creek here in Oshkosh, but I suspect today will be the last of it.

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Already got the plugs out with no damage.

Started out with a burr in a die grinder, just to remove the majority of the plug.  Then I put a Roto-zip bit in the Dremel and screwed on the router attachment.  Set the depth to one sheet thickness and opened up the holes.  Worked really well, and went much faster than I thought.

Welder will drop by tonight to atone for his error....  LOL
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The welder re-did the plugs and they are holding fine now.  There were also a few pinhole leaks to deal with.  He closed up most of them, but then I found one after he left.  Aluminum "solder" took care of that one.  I consider the log to be "done" and now I need to get it home and install it.

One of the other projects had to do with ballast.  I felt that I could use just a bit more weight stern-starboard to trim her out.  Was considering lead.. but then I thought, no good reason to add lead if it doesn't also store power!  So I decided to add a couple more batteries to the house bank.  Replacing the bottom step on the top deck ladder with a box made sense to me, so I tackled the project.  Here are the results:






Having a 3D printer that can work with ABS has saved my bacon a bunch of times on this boat.  In this case I was able to make end-pieces for the newly-cut ladder.  Typically I would have made bolt-on aluminum pieces.. or had it welded.  These ABS pieces not only color-match, but I think they look a lot "cleaner" than my typical aluminum fabrications.

Now I'm up to 550Ah on my house bank.  That should give me a solid 24 hours of typical use without needing shore power or having to fire up the genny.  And it should reduce my normal "depth of discharge" on the bank... adding to overall longevity.
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Nice work Blocker! We need a video of an entire walkthrough of that vessel!Clap
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Yes I agree with the walk thru video of the sunblocker vessel,,," the toon of toons "

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Hi Scott
Great read and ideas I have a 2006 32' party cruiser with 115 optimax OB that's in very good condition.
Looking to add third toon with small holding / fuel cell what length center toon. Put it ahead of engine pod.
Also ideas for rear swim deck? Any pics of your slide set up.

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My center bow log is 16', and I ran it for years with the gap between it and the stern Tracker transom log.  No big problems, but it kicked up a lot of turbulence that beat up the underskinning.  Then a few years ago I installed the "splice log" that contains the water tank.  I don't know if your transom log is the same as mine.... but if so I'd think that 22' is about the longest center bow log that you could add to the mix.

My rear platform is bolt-on, made out of "Bosch" anodized structural aluminum extrusions and topped with composite decking from Menards.  It has served me quite well, but it is heavier than a welded unit topped with aluminum decking.  If I had to do it all over again......

I believe there are pictures of the slide and rear deck in this thread... but if not, there are also a lot of pictures up on my personal server.  I do a really lousy job of keeping it updated, but it still has some good, albeit older, information:



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Well, I got some meaningful things accomplished over the last few days. As I mentioned earlier, I got the modified center bow log home and slid it into rough position under the boat:



Rigged up some slings and jacks and got her bolted into position:



Plumbed her into the pressurization system and cranked it all up to 1.5psi.  She held pressure nicely and that portion of the project is behind me (hopefully).
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I made another change last year that I failed to mention.  I got sick and tired of replacing low-quality budget docking lights... so I finally broke open the piggy bank and popped for some nice, purpose designed, LED units.  After some research I went with some units made by Rigid Industries and I don't regret the decision.



I've got a full season with them under my belt now and they perform flawlessly.  The intensity is amazing and they light the shore and docks up like it is "high mass".... with substantially less power than the older Halogen incandescent units that I have used in the past.

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That looks great. I assume you had to drill out riveted-on underskin to bolt the new tube on?
I look forward to seeing what noticable difference in performance/draft the tube makes.
 
Are you coming up to Freemont again this year? I just might boat on over to see this in person if you are.
 
 
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Originally posted by sceman sceman wrote:

That looks great. I assume you had to drill out riveted-on underskin to bolt the new tube on?
I look forward to seeing what noticable difference in performance/draft the tube makes.
 
Are you coming up to Freemont again this year? I just might boat on over to see this in person if you are.
 
 

It's actually the "old tube"... I just added all of the new sheet metal "straking" to it.  So it bolted right up to the old mounts, no problem.  And the old mounts are 20' long pieces of Bosch 30x60 (mm) extrusion that are bolted to the underside of the boat.  I put those on many years ago, and the bolts go right through the old underskinning (which happens to be FRP) into the cross members.  Not the "purist" way to do it.... but functional and effective.

Sadly I don't think we're going to make it to Fremont.  Didn't go last year either <sob>.  The Admiral (my wife) has been battling some health issues and it makes it difficult for her to pull of extended "working vacations" (Florida hotel with room service.. no problem!  Wink ).  My kid is none-too-happy about this... but you have to play with the cards that you are dealt.


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Took some time off from The `Blocker and got my kids boat finished and launched.







I'm certainly biased....  but I think it turned out pretty good!  The kid does too!  Tongue

Got The `Blocker launched later in the day.  No surprises there.. and with the exception of losing a channel on the stereo (???), everything appears to be working!
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What size motor you have on that little boat?
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It's a 20HP.... the max per the rating plate.

When you get the console kit you also get a new rating plate, allowing you to go from 15HP to 20. The thing scoots!
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Is that a 10 footer? How does it handle in rougher water?
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Originally posted by sceman sceman wrote:

Is that a 10 footer? How does it handle in rougher water?

Yup, that's the 310, which is about 10' long.

It's got a pretty serious deep-V at the bow, so it rides a lot smoother than a flat bottom or similarly sized fishing boat.  At the end of the day it's still only 10' long..... but I'm pretty impressed with its rough water ride characteristics.

I think it being a RIB helps also.... since the RIB construction helps to absorb a lot of the small water chatter and provides for some limited flex.
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