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The tank is from Amazon.  Good idea on the venting, I'll have to think on that.
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Picked up the pontoon from the dealer last Friday, he wanted to go over my install and also one of his mechanics gave me a little operational and maintenance familiarization of the outboard, which was nice.



Before hitting the lake I put a new steering wheel on.  I was going to keep the old one but it had a broken post and the other post were badly rotten. 



Saturday I decided to put the decals on.  First I gave the siding a good wash down with warm soapy water and dried with a lint free cloth.



I taped up the decals temporarily trying to find what I liked.



Ended up with this layout.



This is how it looked after I carefully peeled the protective layers back.  There's some pretty good video's on youtube how to do this.  I thought it would be harder to mimic on the other side but really it's actually easier and went by faster.  I spent more time laying it out on the first side.  For the other side I took a few reference measurements from the first side and made some point marks on the other with a marker, then taped it up and started the process over again.  You should be able to get within 1/2" or closer pretty easy.  Vinyl decals are pretty forgiving if you get bubbles.  My first one had a wrinkle which I was able to hide by trimming with a razor and squeegeeing out.  However I got the process down and the rest went on with just 1 or 2 minor tiny bubbles.  Some gentle care with a razor and squeegee will fix that.

Unfortunately I'm thinking I didn't get tan for the short decals.  You really can't tell until you stick it up and start peeling back the vinyl backing.  I need to call PS and send them my pic.  The aft one is silverish and the fwd one might be tan but I was thinking it would be a little more obvious.  The decals are good though they break up the railing and give the boat a little character... I think so anyway.


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Yes, that looks great.  Makes me think mt old boat needs more work!!  Thumbs Up
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I like it before the decals, and I like it even more now. Yeah, I think you're right, it does give it character
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Gonna answer your PM here since I reserve PM for forum problem type questions. As for the price of the mermonitor, I think thats about right. I paid not quite 800 for my mermonitor and analog cable, 4 way box, terminator and other parts. Contact this guy, he's the one that helped me decide what I needed. rdb11 had turned me onto this guy (Don)As for other guages, don't waste time with a trim gauge, mine never did work (analog), you'll find that the mermonitor RPM, fuel usage and a GPS speed will work as a very good combo. Other guages you'll probably want is fuel, volt meter even though the mermonitor will also display voltage, I wanted it visually quickly without having to cycle through to it. The mermonitor allows you to create several screen display favorites. Mine is RPM (digital readout), fuel usage and something else (can't remember now).
 
So in conclusion, you'll need more than just the mermonitor to make it work. Its expensive but get a quote from the contact above. Myself I'm glad I got it, as I also never got my analog tach to work either on their analog cable I bought. I ended up getting a 5ft cable as I originally got a 15ft cable (way too long), the 5ft was just right for going from the throttle DTS control to inside the console.
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Big smile thanks! haha..  Shame on me you even linked me directly to it a few post back...

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Did a little clean up work yesterday.  The weather was really great overcast and 90s.  Nice change from 110 and blazing sun.



I cleaned up the wiring and cables with wire loom.



Pretty rough edges where the wiring and cable run.



Cleaned up at the back.



The main run is 1-1/4 ID for break offs like this (with two 16/18 ga wire) going to the Anchor light I used 1/4 ID.



Also cleaned up the anchor splices, with a grommet...



Soldered joints...



Shrink tube...



And stuffed away.



Picked up some docking lights and was trying to find a place to mount them...



Up high?



Down on the rub rail?



I ended up swapping the mount around and installing like this.
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Thats how I mounted my 55watt docking lights too.
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More cleanup.



The wiring has been tied up in the front for a while so I wrapped it with wire loom and clamped it up.



I also used weatherpack connectors on the accessories.  The connectors are really nice and go together fast with a ratchet tool.  First the seals.



Then crimp the pins.

Slide the pins in the connectors and plug them together.



Wrapped the wiring with 1/4 ID wire loom and clamped them to the deck.



Did that for the right side; horn, nav light and docking light.  Then ran the remaining cables to the left side thru the front cross member.



Tested the lights.  All is good.



Put a 5 pin plug on the throttle for the trim and neutral safety switch.



Bought some seats for the front.  I'm wanting to put swivel seats in the very front for fishing, but I held off to see if the lean backs were the right size and also to see how they'd fit.  The are 38" benches with the lean back.



I think I have plenty of room for a chair and maybe an arm rest at the end.
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Originally posted by PoliceK9 PoliceK9 wrote:

Thats how I mounted my 55watt docking lights too.

It's funny I was setting there for a good while thinking how am I gonna do this?? Because I didn't like any of my options...  Then it dawned on me to swap the mount.  Smile


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I see you couldn't do like I did as your fence showing the new style of outside where mine is inside, so I mounted mine like this.
 
 
Excellent job on your wiring by the way, but would you show a close up pic of your crimpers and is it the one step type or the 2 step? What brand and model? and how much was it?
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It's a 1 step ratchet crimper I got off amazon for $93...  Pinch  Delphikits.  

I tried buying a toolaid crimper for $35 but it crimped wire and insulation, not wire and seal like the weatherpack I see.  





Take your pin....



Load it into the floating block and it's ready to crimp.
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Ok, just like mine I posted in tips and tricks and I got it for 70 which included shipping. He wanted 89 I offered 70 and he took it. Can't wait to try mine out. Like you I initially it takes a while to get a good crimp, with this tool its SO easy. Good job showing us, nice close up pics - thanks
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Rained Sat but Sunday was nice.  Before headin to the lake I pulled the cover off and did a few quick installs; relocated the battery, installed a glove box, and installed a table.



I moved the battery from hanging out back to just forward under the seat.



Drilled a 1-1/4" DIA hole under the seat at the back and feed the wires thru.  I need to get a tray and I'll also bungee cord the battery to the back of the seat.



This cleaned up the back and what I'll also do is put the cut off switch at the back something like this.  This pic is looking forward underneath the sundeck.



The is where I installed the glove box.  Marked it in the center and cut an opening.



This proved extremely handy the first trip out.  A few zip lock bags and you can safely store electronics, keys, and I also keep paperwork in here.



I also put a table at the back.  We got on the water yesterday afternoon and spent quite a few hours out there.  The sandies were really good.


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Now please post that in the pontoon fishing area (last pic or two) as it would be great there. Nice job too on the rest of the "quick" installs Big smile. One thing I learned with me is there is no QUICK in me left LOL. Thanks for the pics Clap
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Guys got a question. Fairly loaded I run 19/20 mph. That's with the 20ft pontoons (~19.5" dia) and 60 hp bf. what do you think, does that sound fine? I only ask because I've obviously overloaded these toons. They're 80% submerged generally. Sometimes when running the toon it sounds like water is banging the back deck and dragging me as well.

I've found a guy not too far from me in Missouri. I think he parts out used toons. He has a set of 20' 23" dia toons and also another set of 20' 25" dia (with strakes). After a little browsing the Internet it seems strakes aren't real effective at below 90 hp?? anybody have any before after experience? So I guess I'm looking for advice/opinions on replacement toons. It'll be a fun winter project. Haha.
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I think you're doing just fine at 20 MPH. And odds are with the smaller logs you are getting some serious splashing going on at the back. Strakes will not do much, if any, good with the smaller motor and slower speeds. But the 25" logs would be my choice. I've heard good things about Bill that sells the Pontoon logs (if that's the guy you're talking about). Seems to have a good selection and will fabricate most any configuration you want.
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I agree with everything Rick said.  I hope to get a center tube fabricated by the chap in Missouri this winter and hang it on my boat.  I've heard good things about him also and found that he is willing to help with advice as well as product.  And I have no affiliation with him.
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What an incredible rebuild!  Your boat looks terrific and the detailed thread showing all you've done is amazing!  Love seeing this!
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Thanks!  It's been fun and PS has been great to work with.
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Guys it's been a while. 

Well as suggested by a wise experienced person waaaay back on page 1 to take it easy on the 19" toons (which I didn't follow Embarrassed).   I have decided to change gears here.  This time I am following Charles' lead Big smile!!

I found a 20' toon with complete deck, transom and tank.  So I'm going to start a new build transferring all my above the floor stuff over.  Here's couple of shots of what I just picked off ebay.  Now I just have to make the journey 800 miles north to get it.  I teased it to my wife as a family road trip.  Should be good, gonna make a few stops along the way and see the country.




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       Wow sounds great now you'll have a totally new boat ! Can't wait to see how it floats after the swap. So is your plan to have it ready for the water before next spring ? It's funny how these project lead from one thing to another !!!
 
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I hope I can have it done before the spring!!!  I've got good experience now... LOL


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I know this is a older build but was there a update on the swap ?

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Hi!  I did the swap actually pretty fast.  When you have a pontoon deck ready to go these things go together quickly!  This is the only pic I have.  I'll have to dig some more up and post them.
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Not sure if you still check this post but first let me thank you for the detail and time you put in documenting this project! Job well done and the pontoon looks really great.
I am also in the middle of a redo of my 1988 Grumman 24 foot pontoon from the logs up and have purchased parts from PS. I'm having trouble finding the rub rail from anyone! Where did you get yours? Did it come in sections and what was the cost? Thanks for any help you can provide.
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This is the only place I know.    http://www.ebayclassifieds.com/user/Bill5500
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