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    Posted: 01/20/2011 at 11:02pm

Hi all,

I purchased a 34’ Aloha 1973 pontoon with completely rotten floors and no seats.  It has no trailer…I purchased it from a gentleman that lives up the harbor from me and towed it to my house and tied it to my seawall.  

Anyone else ever redone one while on the water?  I can’t imagine being able to find a trailer long enough to get this beast out of the water.

So far I have removed the rail trim, railings, and bimini top…which were the only reusable parts.  Also have the rotten floor ripped off and am now removing the old rusted bolts.  My next move is to purchase marine plywood and I’m planning to get the carpet kit from pontoonstuff for 30 feet of deck…which is perfect and also the longest kit they have.  I need the 3” deck bolts since this thing has 2” channel beams, so hopefully they will let me pay the extra $10 to upgrade the kit.

 

Anyhow, nice to find this site and here is the beast:

 

 



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One member did, don't think he's still around though. You really need to get it out of the water to speed up your rebuild, unless you like staying wet. Be sure to use CCA 7ply marine plywood, not what some lumber yards call marine grade. If you want longer carpet, just call PontoonStuff for a price, I'm pretty sure they can work with you on that. Call and ask your questions prior to purchase to get a quote. 
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Hey neighbor, where in Mississippi y'at?  As several have said, you will want to get her out of the water to work on her. It might not be pretty but surely you can come up with some type of trailer or rigging that can get her on the shore and up on blocks, then reverse the procedure to launch her. Your having a lake front lot will work out well for you as you won't have to haul it a long distance over the highway. We've had members use fork lifts, high light jacks, and number of different things to get them on blocks -- search the forum a few ideas.  Launching her after the rebuild will be more of a challenge due to the added weight, so think of that when you place her. You can likely rig up some type of rollers to help with launching.
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Not including tractors too huh Woody. He used a block and tackle and trees using the tractor to pull it. Yep, launching you'd have to be careful not to damage your rails, toons.
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I'm near Jackson on the Reservoir in this area.
 
Another question was engine.  The previous owner offered me the 85 Mercury (80's something model), but it had a bad lower unit and has been sitting upside down outside for many years, so I passed.  You guys may think I'm nuts, but I have no plans for adding an outboard...we had a 24' Landau and didn't really care for cruising or skiing/tubing behind it.  Because the Reservoir I live on has no beaches and we are in a "no wake" harbor, we are going to tow the pontoon out with our Honda PWC and anchor it for use as an island...a home base for everyone that wants to go out: a place to store skis, tubes, put some slides on it for the kids, a grill, ice chests, and I'm even going to modify the outboard area into a ramp to park a stand up jet ski (only 2 feet wide and 300 lbs).  We towed it out this way once at the end of last summer (threw down loose plywood to keep from losing anybody thru the floor) and it was surprising easy to tow.  It tracked straight and cruised nicely with the Honda at low RPM's.  Just for kicks, I gave it WOT once and it pulled the beast 20 mph.
 
I hear you all on the try to get it out of the water idea.  I'll call around local boat places to enquire on renting one for a couple of months.  I have neighbors with trailers just sitting in their yard but none nearly long enough for this thing.  Sounds like it will be a pain either way...it will be too high on a trailer to work on.  I could winch it into my backyard, but I fear twisting the frame and damaging the pontoons...plus shoving it back in would be a major problem.  I've even thought about putting dollies under the pontoons to get it the 200 feet from the boat ramp to my front yard, but it would take large casters due to the rough surface of the pavement and again fearing damaging the pontoons.
 
The one guy that did do one while on the water, is there a thread around here?
Thanks for the input so far guys, please keep em coming.  And here are a few more photos, these are from the day we pulled it home, thru down plywood, and towed it out for the afternoon:
 
 
 


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Welcome sea Donkey,

I agree with the others.  It will be significantly easier to rebuild her on dry land.  I looked at the pic and it hard to tell but it appears that your seawall is not very high. I don’t know how much of a tide swing you get there if any but I believe you could attach two big trailer rollers to the seawall and winch her up with a come along or block and tackle.   

She is much lighter now that the deck is removed. I was able to carry my 24 logs around with just one other person. I know your logs are ten feet longer but it can’t weight that much. Remove the rest of the decking and the rear fence and drag her over.  Just make sure the rollers are anchored down to the seawall real good and spaced so the center of the logs are lined up.

Just my two cents but I would try it.  But then again I’m a little crazy at least that’s what all my friends say.  LOL

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Funny you say that Dave...I was just discussing dragging it out with a winch or tractor using dollies with casters. The water is 18" lower now thru April, but I have two 20 foot pieces of channel that I use for pulling other toys out...just might work.
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I doubt the tidal flow is much around Jackson since you're about 300 miles from the Gulf.  LOL  We have others that have built floating docks and swim platforms like you describe, so that is not unusual. If you decide to bring her over from the boat launch maybe you could rent one of those car dollies (with automotive tires) and use that to support the front end and do the towing, and think up something else to support the stern while you moved it. It sounds like a few guys could even lift that stern and walk her over now, but that won't work on the return trip. As you said, a trailer is too tall to work on, so just set her on blocks or something and turn the trailer back in. Time for a little Southern Engineering!
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Just find a 28-30' trailer....with almost no weight, and not going far at all you will be fine.  Putting it back may be another story though!
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Check with any marinas around the local lakes that have covered slips. I know where my toon is there is a lot full of trailers where people parked them and their boats sit in the water. I'm sure some of them would rent as they just sit there. I think the thread on here where the rebuild was done on the water he had a lift and a covered slip. If you expel all options getting it out I may be able to help you.
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EMT your post reminds me when there is a will there is a way...I once rented a U haul car trailer to haul a hot tub back from Dallas. I got some odd looks on the interstate. Another idea might be to get some 4x4s or something similar and bolt across the rails of a 18 or 20 ft. utility trailer and float the boat up on them. not sure of the implications on the highway but if the ramp is near the house may work
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   Most of the local rental shops here rent crank up trailers for next to nothing for a couple hours. Thats how I originally got my boat home. I know you might not find a trailer as long as you would like but if your going it short distance it wont matter. Just go easy and set the boat on the ground until your ready to put it back in the water. The one I put my 20' boat on could haul a 28' boat. Option 2 would be to throw a couple straps on the forks of your skid loader and lift it over the sea wall !!!
 
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Good idea Shaun. I missed that he had a loader with forks. Could even extend the forks with some aluminum tubing. I am not far from his area though and I doubt the rental places there have jack up trailers or they will be hard to find. At least not the kind made for boats. I have a similar sized boat and actually used my backhoe to load it on the trailer.
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Actually here is the link to my rebuild with pictures of how we loaded with the backhoe
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    I don't know if he has a loader it was kind of a joke ! Sorry !!!  I just always tell people they should have one becasue they are handy to have around. I would rent the closest size trailer I could find.
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I called a couple of boat places Friday afternoon and one place said they had a 25 foot trailer they could probably rent me.  I was hoping to find a 28 footer.
 
But I've got a couple of other ideas that might not be as much trouble as dragging the boat on and off the trailer.  Part of my seawall is at water level April-October.  Here is a photo of it at winter water level (18" lower than summer level).  The distance between the shed's posts is 10 feet, so I'm thinking put some bunk slide spray on the existing carpet floor and winch that sucker under the shed and into my yard.
How much does an all aluminum stripped boat like mine weigh?
I can move the channel steel out of the way of the pontoons and hopefully pull it up with the water low and take it off in April after the water comes back up.
To drag it back off, I could winch it by chaining the winch to a tree that is 50 feet from my seawall on an island that is directly behind the point that this picture is taken from.  Could this be done without knocking a hole in the bottom of the pontoons?  Anyone ever tried this? 
 


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Hi Sea-Donkey. 

What's the width, internal depth and length of the I beam or C beam?  condition of the beams and ability to move around? Possibility of lining the beams and sliding the pontoon up on them??

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I would get some 3" Sch. 40 PVC pipes (or fence posts, Etc.) and put them every couple of feet across the shed opening and winch/roll it right to where you want it. Then just roll it back in the water when you're done..
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I think that would work and like Rick said use some pipes to roll it on. Should be able to pull it up with a winch on a 4WD truck if its on pipe rollers. Maybe even a smaller winch.
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Sea Donkey,
I realize my pontoon is a whole lot smaller than yours, but I was able to move it around by myself.  I had it on 4" PVC DWV pipe.  It appears you plan on using yours similar to what I did.  
 
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     Looking at your sea wall I think it would be a good move to pull the boat up there. With it all tore down there really isn't much weight at all. I know I can carry a loose 20' log easily by myself ( guessing 60-80 lbs.) The whole boat can't weigh more than a few hundred pounds. You will have to worry more when it comes time to put it back in the water. I see no reason why you couldn't slide it right up. A few pieces of pipe might help ,but as is I would just drag it up a ramp. If the water comes up in time to launch it you will have a much easier time.  On a side note I have to ask if that is a kawasaki x2 under that cover or another wet bike? I have always wanted to try a wet bike L.O.L !!! 
 
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       On a side note I have to ask if that is a kawasaki x2 under that cover or another wet bike? I have always wanted to try a wet bike L.O.L !!! 
 
Thanks for the input guys and appreciate the link Lake Kerr Guy.  I bought some liquid rollers to help the pontoons slide on the carpet.  Now I just have a find a good weekend for a couple of family members to come help when I drag it out.
 
Liquid Asset, that is another Wetbike.  I'd like to figure out a way to park it on the pontoon, but it's a little trickier with the skis being 2 feet under water while at rest.  Wetbikes are much more fun that regular jet skis.
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Just ordered carpet, glue, and hardware from the site.
Planning to winch her out Saturday...forecast is sunny and 62. Bought some liquid rollers bunk lube and have some pvc pipes and a 2000 lb winch. Plan to layout and spray strips of carpet for the pontoons to ride on.
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Just like I said, yank it over the seawall Wink

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Hey I think I see largemouth under that right side ramp.  Smile

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A friend of mine tears the crappie up every spring under those ramps.  We get invited to a fish fry soon after that.  Smile
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  Be careful pulling that boat out. With a 2000 lb. winch it will fly over that sea wall LOL  You should have no problems it sounds like you have a good plan. Funny you'll be pulling a boat out of the water I and I will be plowing snow againCry  It's a good thing though becasuse it's making boat moneyBig smile   Take lots of pics so I can see what water looks like instead of ice !!!                                  
 
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I'd be a little careful coming over the edge of the dock.  Maybe its only 18" higher than the water level, but putting any force on the bottom of pontoons on a sharp or nearly sharp (as in 90 degree) edge could cause some bending or deformation.  I'd want something to cover the edge of the dock to ensure the bottom of the tubes don't get deformed.  My 2 cts only.  Good luck.

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Ditto Mike. If water is up it will probably be ok but if no you may want to build some carpeted 2x12 ramps or something to prevent pressure on the pivot point.
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