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Topic: 1991 20' Sweetwater Rebuild
Posted By: LuvDLions
Subject: 1991 20' Sweetwater Rebuild
Date Posted: 01/30/2014 at 1:20pm
Hello boys and girls!
 
My name is Justin and I have been lurking here getting all that good information for my new project. I have never owned a pontoon myself, but have been on them and really enjoy them.  More importantly, my wife and kids prefer them to the go fast boats I have had in the past. 
 
I just picked up this pontoon 2 weeks ago for $1400 and started the rebuild already.  I am hoping to have it done by the end of February if life doesn't get in the way.  I really like the way it is laid out, with 2 fishing chairs and a livewell up front, a l shaped lounge in the middle and 2 more fishing seats in the rear.  Because of the layout I am going to have my welder add a gate to the back right railing so I can add a ladder there just like the brand new toons have.
 
 
 
 
It was a fiasco getting it home to begin with.  I bought it off craigslist and knew it had to be completely rebuilt before I looked at it.  However, the trailer was supposed to be in good shape for me to drive it home 45 miles in the dark.  Not so much.  I had to buy $100 worth of lights, cresent wrenches and wiring accessories just to get the lights working.  3 hours later, after running a ground wire to the back also because I could get a good ground on the trailer, I finally finished the wiring in the Autozone parking lot, aired up the low, dry rotted tires and hoped for the best.  I made it home luckily, because the next day one of the tires was completely flat. 
 
Needless to say I replaced it and the other one, because it was just as bad.  I also ordered a rim and tire for a spare.
 
 
Last Saturday I started the tear down and had it completely tore down to the rails by the end of the day.  I was impressed with myself!!  I had a good crew though. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I polished one piece of the railing.  This took about 1.5 hours, so I figure the whole thing will take about 30 hours.
 
 
 
I just received the decking, carpet, fishing seats, console and drivers seat, which I opted for the flip flop seat with the built in cooler from pontoonstuff.  Taking it home tonight.
 
 
With any luck, I will get the plywood down this weekend.  Life already got in the way Saturday, but I will try to get a few hours of work in before the "Big Game", not sure if I can say the other word.  Then I am going to bolt down the rails so I can polish them before I lay down the http://www.pontoonstuff.com/collections/pontoon-boat-carpet-flooring" rel="nofollow - carpet .  I plan on cutting all of the holes before I lay the carpet as well.  Anyone heard of laying resin over the plywood to seal it or is that not neccessary?
 
Plans also include:
 
Using Nu-Brite to clean the toons.  Not sure if I am going to polish them as well or just put some sharkshide on after. 
 
New siding, I wanted it, momma didn't, I won because I couldn't get the old paneling off for the welding project without messing it all up.
 
I want to pressure test the toons also.  It has obviously not been in the water, so i have no idea if it leaks.  Where should I put my 3lbs of pressure tester to test it?  I have a drain plug and it looks like 3 vent caps along the top of the toons.
 
 
 
I have another random question:
 
Are the self tapping deck screws that come with the kit sufficient to hold the deck down for 20 years or should I add a few through bolts?
 
I guess that is it for now, i know it is a lot for a first post, but I will add more as I go along! Thanks in advance for looking and information.
 
Wink



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Posted By: SunBlocker
Date Posted: 01/30/2014 at 2:00pm
The logs are probably divided up into three separate chambers.  Each chamber has a vent, and the stern chamber has a drain.  Sometimes the bulkheads between the chambers are drilled at the bottom so they can all drain into the stern chamber.... but that's a lousy design and I hope you don't have that.

So make sure your drain plug is in and do your pressure testing at the vented plug locations.  BE VERY CAREFUL, make sure you have a good regulator and monitor the process.  DO NOT GO ABOVE the ~3psi.


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1992 SunTracker Party Cruiser 41ft
18' Cobalt, 13' ElDebo E-Pontoon
-- Okauchee Lake, WI --
http://www.pontoonboatforum.com/sunblocker-1992-party-cruiser_topic3192.html" rel="nofollow - The `Blocker Build


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 01/30/2014 at 2:06pm
Originally posted by SunBlocker SunBlocker wrote:

The logs are probably divided up into three separate chambers.  Each chamber has a vent, and the stern chamber has a drain.  Sometimes the bulkheads between the chambers are drilled at the bottom so they can all drain into the stern chamber.... but that's a lousy design and I hope you don't have that.

So make sure your drain plug is in and do your pressure testing at the vented plug locations.  BE VERY CAREFUL, make sure you have a good regulator and monitor the process.  DO NOT GO ABOVE the ~3psi.
 
Definately not going above the 3 psi.  I do not want to kill myself before I can get it out on the water. Probably not even after that.
 
If they have 3 seperate chambers, how else would you drain them if they didn't have a hole at the bottom of each?  As I was typing, I thought to look, which I haven't yet at the bottom of the toons and see if there were other plugs.
 


Posted By: PS-Guy
Date Posted: 01/30/2014 at 2:09pm
You're off to a great start!  Great job on the pictures as well.  As for the wood, leave it alone.  If there was a better way to do it the OEMs would have been doing it long ago.  Just use it out of the box like they all do.  The deck screws are plenty, I just re-decked a 15yr old pontoon that had similar fasteners and they were all fine.  Most likely those drain plugs in your logs were added.  I'm betting you have 3 sealed chambers.  Definitely want to pressure test no, just as described above.

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Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 01/30/2014 at 2:30pm
Great start! It took me months to rebuild mine last year and I still haven't hit the water! 
 
The wood is fine as it is. The screws will be all you need.
 
Then I am going to bolt down the rails so I can polish them before I lay down the carpet. I plan on cutting all of the holes before I lay the carpet as well.
 
Not sure you want to do this part. I would polish the rails off of the toon easier to get all the angles etc. In my opinion you should lay the carpet first, then put up the rails and drill your holes. Then bolt them on.  You will not ruin the carpet drilling... Just make sure and have more than 5 new bits on hand, you will break some trust me. An electric drill is a must for drilling the holes as well. Most of the railing bolts go through crossmembers or at least they should.
 
Check out the link in my sig if you want of some of the things I learned the hardway....Angry
 
Did you fire up the motor yet?
 
 
Heck of a great start! ClapWelcome to the club!Star


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Craig n Paula
http://www.pontoonboatforum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7781&title=the-floater-rebuild" rel="nofollow - THE FLOATER Rebuild
94 Party Barge 24' 115 merc
22mph
OP KS
Truman Lake


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 01/30/2014 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by PS-Guy PS-Guy wrote:

You're off to a great start!  Great job on the pictures as well.  As for the wood, leave it alone.  If there was a better way to do it the OEMs would have been doing it long ago.  Just use it out of the box like they all do.  The deck screws are plenty, I just re-decked a 15yr old pontoon that had similar fasteners and they were all fine.  Most likely those drain plugs in your logs were added.  I'm betting you have 3 sealed chambers.  Definitely want to pressure test no, just as described above.
 
Thanks! My plan was to take lots of pictures of the process and put them in a photo album and continue to add pictures of all the good times we are going to have with it too. 
 
Oh... He already has a name.  "Naughty Bouy".


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 01/30/2014 at 2:44pm
Originally posted by curtiscapk curtiscapk wrote:

 
Did you fire up the motor yet?
 
 
The motor was a Johnson 65hp.  He said in the ad it didn't run, so I knew I was going to have to do something with it.  When i got it home and looked at it, he obviously broke a rod or something, because the housing opposite the heads has a huge open crack and hole in it.  That was expected though, that is why I had already planned on buying an 80hp 2 stroke Mercury from the local boat shop that has super low hours, rewired under the hood, 125 compression on all cylinders, new impeller and lube and runs like a champ for $700.  That's sitting in the garage waiting!!!
 


Posted By: SunBlocker
Date Posted: 01/30/2014 at 2:45pm
Most pontoons don't void the bulkhead with the drain hole.  You can only drain the stern chamber with a drain plug.  If one of the other chambers gets water in it you will need to snake a semi-rigid tube down the vent port and siphon or pump the water out.  Not fun, but certainly "do-able".

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1992 SunTracker Party Cruiser 41ft
18' Cobalt, 13' ElDebo E-Pontoon
-- Okauchee Lake, WI --
http://www.pontoonboatforum.com/sunblocker-1992-party-cruiser_topic3192.html" rel="nofollow - The `Blocker Build


Posted By: fergusmj
Date Posted: 01/30/2014 at 5:18pm
Great start! keep up the good work.Thumbs Up


Posted By: nathan
Date Posted: 01/30/2014 at 9:32pm
great start keep the good work coming!!


Posted By: Barnmb7117
Date Posted: 01/30/2014 at 10:14pm
great start. Keep the pictures coming.Clap

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Mike
1993 Tracker fishing barge 21
2015 Evinrude pontoon series 90 hp
Summer - On the wolf River Weyauwega, WI
Winter- Chicago, IL


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/03/2014 at 12:30pm
After spending 5 hours on Sunday before the Super Bowl, I was able to complete the new deck.  I also sealed all of the screw heads and seams from the top along with the tape under the joints.  It took a little longer because I had to straighten and strengthen the front cross member as it was bowed forward from being torqued to hard on the u-bolt. I simply unbolted the u-bolt and reinstalled it backwards and used a comealong hooked to it and the trailer to straighten it.  Worked great! 
 
After I lined up the rear 4x8 sheet of plywood and centered the front edge on the center of the cross member I drew a line for the outboard cut-out and cut it.  After lining that back up, I laid out the other 4 and found that I was offset to the right in the front. I was able to adjust the angle and still didn't have to trim any off my cut-out. Now, I see, not only should you lay it all out prior to screwing any down, but DON'T CUT IT EITHER!
 
I went through about 3 #3 phillips head bits to get the job done. I found my electric drill worked better than my cordless impact, which surprised me.  I guess the higher rpms helped it drill through the cross members easier. I was able to get 6 self tapers in between and 12 at each joint, spaced 8" at the end and 16" between the others with a few lwft over, even after ruining a handful. 
 
I noticed that the ends of the plywood on both sides seem to be a bit warped (don't line up completely level), but I think or hope at least that will be fixed once I get the rails on.
 
 
 


Posted By: nathan
Date Posted: 02/03/2014 at 10:02pm
very nice!!


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/03/2014 at 11:24pm
you're coming along nicely!ClapClapClap

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Craig n Paula
http://www.pontoonboatforum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7781&title=the-floater-rebuild" rel="nofollow - THE FLOATER Rebuild
94 Party Barge 24' 115 merc
22mph
OP KS
Truman Lake


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/03/2014 at 11:31pm
this toon is the exact twin of my old neighbor at the lake.... If you look past the wheelers you can see it in his driveway....
 


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Craig n Paula
http://www.pontoonboatforum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7781&title=the-floater-rebuild" rel="nofollow - THE FLOATER Rebuild
94 Party Barge 24' 115 merc
22mph
OP KS
Truman Lake


Posted By: fergusmj
Date Posted: 02/04/2014 at 12:55pm
I like the toilet paper dispenser setup on the right side quad. Thumbs Up


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/04/2014 at 2:07pm
Thanks Ferg! I don't mind dumping yellow out of my trailer but if you have to brown you go down to the bathhouse!Confused

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Craig n Paula
http://www.pontoonboatforum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7781&title=the-floater-rebuild" rel="nofollow - THE FLOATER Rebuild
94 Party Barge 24' 115 merc
22mph
OP KS
Truman Lake


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/05/2014 at 3:19pm
 
Why do I need this rail behind the seats if I am putting in new deckmate http://www.pontoonstuff.com/collections/classic-pontoon-boat-seats" rel="nofollow - pontoon boat furniture ?  There is a fishing area behind this seat and the batteries and gas tanks are in boxes behind the seat as well.  I want to get rid of it and move everything back a few inches.


Posted By: PS-Guy
Date Posted: 02/05/2014 at 3:34pm
Bench seats need support...usually against a railing.  If you could figure our another way to support the back rest, you could loose the rail.  But is seems like leaving it would be easier?




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Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/05/2014 at 5:34pm
Originally posted by PS-Guy PS-Guy wrote:

Bench seats need support...usually against a railing.  If you could figure our another way to support the back rest, you could loose the rail.  But is seems like leaving it would be easier?
 
Oh Good Lord! Now you are about to be brought into the crazy inner workings of my mind.  Consider this fair warning!!!! 
 
The rail is 62" long and I have 93" from the rail to the port door.
 
My original plan was a 28" corner, a 28" bench and a 7" arm rest along the back, bringing me to 63 inches, an inch longer than the rail.  Then, I was going with the 28" corner, the 55" bench and a 7" arm rest along the side, giving me plenty of room at only 90 inches.
 
Now, I have been thinking, seat space is important to me.  Cup holders in the arm rests would be great for holding silver bullets.  But, if you have to sit your beer down, your doing something wrong anyway. Right?  So, seat space trumps the cup holders.  In my mind anyway.
 
So, now I was thinking along the back, go with the 28" corner and a 38" bench, bringing me to 66 inches, 4 inches longer than my rail.  Then along the side, I would go 28" corner, 28" bench and a 38" bench which brings me to 94 inches, blocking my door.  DOH!!!
 
Now, get rid of the rail, there's my inch back, with a 1/4" to spare.  I have to build a box to house the gas tanks and batteries anyway which I was going to build at 62(l)x15(w)x15(h) to match the rail.  Now, I can build it at 66x15x15 and add another box 66x15x6 on top of it for additional storage of my removable ladder and what not and to support the seats.  Screw them together, bolt them to the floor and bolt the seats to them.  Besides, I can add a whole lot of cup holders along the top of that bad boy. 
 
What do you think? I know it seems a bit redneck (that's me), but I think it would work and of course, I would buy the matching Ivory vinyl to make it all look pretty. 
 
Besides that, I wouldn't have to polish that rail and I could reuse the aluminum to make my stern gate.
 
I warned you!!!!  I didn't even proof read this, just so you get the full effect.
 
 


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/05/2014 at 5:38pm
Oh yea... The differnce in price between the two furniture set ups is only 1 penny, otherwise the decision would be simple.  Yes, I will have to build another box, but then I would have more storage and less polishing to do. 
 
Did I mention, I regret polishing that 1st rail?!?
 


Posted By: Something2do
Date Posted: 02/05/2014 at 6:34pm
Originally posted by LuvDLions LuvDLions wrote:


 
Did I mention, I regret polishing that 1st rail?!?
 


That comment made me laugh out loud!  I polished for a few days until I got fed up and took all my rails and fences to the Powder Coat shop. I wish I powder coated even more than I did. I plan on pulling off more aluminum later and doing just that.

Looking forward to the rest of the build. Thanks for posting all the pictures.


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1990 30' Party Hut Rebuild 110hp Evinrude
2000 Four Winns Horizon 210 IO


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/05/2014 at 10:04pm
I took some of the decking scraps and made this transom. I glued it together with gorilla glue, added a few screws on the other side to hold it together, slapped on a coat of man-o-war because I had it here and beat it into the groove.  It fits tight!  Hopefully, there is nothing left to do but drill the holes and put the bolts in, because I don't know if I could get it out anyway.  Am I on the right track?  I don't know how low/high the prop is supposed to sit in the water. I have a 1982 mercury 80 hp to put on it.  I noticed the 65 Evinrude was mounted with the hooks about 2 inches above the top of the transom.  I don't think that is what I am supposed to do though.  Any tricks, tips to mounting a motor?  I know getting that steering cable in there is going to be a pain.  Because I will be manhandling the motor up to the transom. Ughhh... That reminds me, I need to make an appointment for the Chiropractor.


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/05/2014 at 10:05pm
Originally posted by Something2do Something2do wrote:

Originally posted by LuvDLions LuvDLions wrote:


 
Did I mention, I regret polishing that 1st rail?!?
 


That comment made me laugh out loud!  I polished for a few days until I got fed up and took all my rails and fences to the Powder Coat shop. I wish I powder coated even more than I did. I plan on pulling off more aluminum later and doing just that.

Looking forward to the rest of the build. Thanks for posting all the pictures.
 
Someone told me not to worry about it. It will be gray like the rest of it soon enough anyway. LOL!


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/05/2014 at 10:21pm
UPDATE:
 
I decided to stop over thinking it. I am going with plan "C1b" on the seats.
 
38" bench and 28" corner on the back, total of 66 inches and my rail is 65" (which I thought was 66) and I am going to keep and only build a 15x65x15 box for the batteries and gas tanks.
 
Then, 28" corner, 55" bench and left arm rest on the side. (As I was typing, I am started wondering if I should use 2 28" instead) Total of 90 inches, which is good because after remeasuring I only had 92 inches anyway.  Now I need to go order them before I change my mind again. Confused
 
I'm beginning to think that my lack of sleep lately is due to this project!!! Wacko
 
 


Posted By: tjones96761
Date Posted: 02/06/2014 at 12:19am
About beer holders - we got some rod holder bases that mount to the top rail with removable rod holders, and they make beer holders that fit the same bases. They're awesome. I don't think we even carry the rod holders in the boat any more. lol. I would buy just bases and beer holders. Don't remember the name, I can dig up a receipt if google lets you down.

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When I get tied down by the ties that bind, seems like I'm never gonna find the time to do what I need. - Jason Boland "Somewhere Down in Texas"


Posted By: PS-Guy
Date Posted: 02/06/2014 at 8:44am
Whoa...I'm not sure I can digest all that info LOL

I can answer your transom question.  Looks like you did a great job on it.  As far as motor mounting, on a 2-log pontoon boat it's not as easy as saying "it goes HERE".

 Proper height for an outboard is having the cavitation plate just skimming the surface of the water while under way.  This is ideal, how ever with a pontoon some times you need it a bit lower do to variances in the way you load the boat, turning, etc.

Where it really gets sketchy on a toon, is the fact that the transom really has no effect on where the motor sits in the water.  On a 'glass boat, you motor mounts to a transom that sits in the water, so the height of the cavitation plate in relation to water flow really never changes. 

On a 2 log pontoon, the transom never sits in the water.  Therefore, it's height in relation to the surface of the water is not only effected by the size/length of the logs, weight of the boat, and how it's loaded but it also is constantly changing by how much fuel you have, how many people there are on board, how many full coolers of tasty beverages, etc etc etc.

The correct height of your motor can only be determined by rigging the pontoon and running it.  Run it various scenarios, and determine if you need to raise or lower the motor.  If you need to lower it, it will be obvious because your prop will blow out, or catch air.  If it's too low, you will have excessive spray and loose performance.  Have some one drive the boat and climb back there and take a look.  But be sure to wear your flotation device!




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Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/06/2014 at 9:46am
Before you get it in the water a good starting point is the cav plate just at the bottom of the toons then you can adjust from there. Here is mine on land and running in the water. Ty's suggestion of cav plate just under water is dead on.
 
 


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Craig n Paula
http://www.pontoonboatforum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7781&title=the-floater-rebuild" rel="nofollow - THE FLOATER Rebuild
94 Party Barge 24' 115 merc
22mph
OP KS
Truman Lake


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/06/2014 at 1:50pm
Again, I would like to thank you all for the positive feedback and helpful hints.
 
The cavitation plate is the one right above the prop right?  Never really dealt with this stuff, I have always had I/O's or jets before.  I guess it is just trial and error then.
 
On another note:  I slept a lot better because I came up with a solution to my polishing dillema.  As I was trying to polish the bases for the fishing seats, I found they had a lot of corrosion around the mounting screw holes, so I got out an abrasive buffing pad on my angle grinder and did this.
 
 
I like the look and more importantly the ease and quickness it was done, so I tried this.
 
 
I can totally live with this "brushed aluminum" look. It adds a little grip to a slippery rail and clears up all of the blemishes and corrosion on the 23 year old aluminum.  I am just worried that this will hold dirt and grime a little more. I was hoping a good sealant of some sort would help take care of that.
 
 


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/06/2014 at 2:33pm
These are the pads I used.
 
 
We sell this at work, so I think I will try it.
 


Posted By: Something2do
Date Posted: 02/06/2014 at 3:21pm
I like the brushed aluminum look too. Not so sure about it holding more dirt, etc.  If I were to do it again, I would powder coat everything. The shop I used had some awesome colors including many that looked like chrome, smoked chrome, etc.

They did all of my rails and fence panels for around $500 on my 30ft boat. I may have just gotten a steal, but it saved me hours/days/weeks of work. I did all the prep myself which you are doing real nicely with that buffer.

That is going to be a great boat no matter what route you choose.


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1990 30' Party Hut Rebuild 110hp Evinrude
2000 Four Winns Horizon 210 IO


Posted By: tjones96761
Date Posted: 02/07/2014 at 11:46pm
I did brushed aluminum also on my panels, but much rougher than yours. I like yours better.


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When I get tied down by the ties that bind, seems like I'm never gonna find the time to do what I need. - Jason Boland "Somewhere Down in Texas"


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/10/2014 at 11:23am

UPDATE:

Not much to update this weekend. Life, or should I say work, got in the way. Gotta pay for this rebuild somehow right?  I did manage to get a few hours of wire brushing the rails, I decided that is all I am going to do, because of the time involved and got one side done. 
 
The weather was not quite conducive to laying the carpet anyway. It was cool and moist all weekend. Plus, I needed to figure out from you guys whether I should use a flat trowel or a notched trowel for the adhesive.  I read an old post here regarding the application and it said to use the trowel provided with the kit, but I didn't get one.  I would assume it would be notched due to the comments saying it should leave lines, but do you know how big of notches I should use?
 
 


Posted By: PS-Guy
Date Posted: 02/10/2014 at 11:48am
You are reading old posts.  If you purchased glue from PontoonStuff any time in the last 9 months, the instructions tell you apply it with a medium nap paint roller.  Simply roll it on as thick as you can.  Much easier then the old trowel on glue Wink

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Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/10/2014 at 12:05pm
Originally posted by PS-Guy PS-Guy wrote:

You are reading old posts.  If you purchased glue from PontoonStuff any time in the last 9 months, the instructions tell you apply it with a medium nap paint roller.  Simply roll it on as thick as you can.  Much easier then the old trowel on glue Wink
 
OK then.  I didn't get that far.  I just looked in the box for the trowel and that was it. LOL
 


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/10/2014 at 12:48pm
Originally posted by PS-Guy PS-Guy wrote:

You are reading old posts.  If you purchased glue from PontoonStuff any time in the last 9 months, the instructions tell you apply it with a medium nap paint roller.  Simply roll it on as thick as you can.  Much easier then the old trowel on glue Wink
 
Man that sure would have made my life easier!!!!DeadDeadDead


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Craig n Paula
http://www.pontoonboatforum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7781&title=the-floater-rebuild" rel="nofollow - THE FLOATER Rebuild
94 Party Barge 24' 115 merc
22mph
OP KS
Truman Lake


Posted By: twood
Date Posted: 02/12/2014 at 10:22am
Hey it looks like your enjoying your re-build and that's what counts... I have a 20 footer waiting in the wings and I can't hardly wait to get to it. Will be glad to see your finished picture.. keep em coming.

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twood
1999 Party hut 30 ft.
Mariner 60 HP


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/13/2014 at 2:19pm
I came up with a new name for the pontoon.  This is the design of the decal to go on my new blue siding.  It is 9" tall lettering and going to be a little over 5' long. 
 
Is this too risque?  I think it is funny and will get a lot of attention!
 


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/13/2014 at 2:35pm
Originally posted by twood twood wrote:

Hey it looks like your enjoying your re-build and that's what counts... I have a 20 footer waiting in the wings and I can't hardly wait to get to it. Will be glad to see your finished picture.. keep em coming.
 
It's been fun so far.  I hope to get the carpet down and the rails bolted in by the end of the weekend.  If I can get that done, I am sure I will at least sit the furniture in place and mount the fishing seats. 
 
Definately more pics coming on Monday!
 


Posted By: fergusmj
Date Posted: 02/13/2014 at 3:06pm

I like it! It’s one of those where if you just glance at it, you don’t even notice it. Sneaky!



Posted By: SunBlocker
Date Posted: 02/13/2014 at 6:01pm
Better than a friend of mine on the lake... he changed his Party Hut to Party Slu.....  well, you get the picture.Wink

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1992 SunTracker Party Cruiser 41ft
18' Cobalt, 13' ElDebo E-Pontoon
-- Okauchee Lake, WI --
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Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/13/2014 at 7:55pm


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22mph
OP KS
Truman Lake


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/14/2014 at 1:04pm
Well, yesterday I bribed my son into wire brushing all of the rails and aluminum moldings.  He got all of it done, some of it needs to be touched up but I am stoked!!! That would of taken me at least a full day to do.  So the goal for Saturday, Sunday I have to work again, is to lay the carpet, mount the rails and install the fishing seats. I might try to hang the motor as well.  Actually, I am sure I will do that while the carpet dries a little. 
 
The problem with the rails is going to be cutting the new aluminum siding.  It comes 24" wide and I only have about a 13" opening for it, so I will have to cut the full length around the entire pontoon.  I am worried about that too.  I'm not sure how easy or hard that is going to be.  I figured I might as well do that too before I install the rails and give the carpet even more time to dry.
 
Am I being to bold in my expectations for the day?  I am planning to work from sun up to sun down.
 


Posted By: PS-Guy
Date Posted: 02/14/2014 at 4:24pm
It's not too bad...do you have the siding that is inserted inside the extruded "lip"?  If so you you will spend more time prying out the lip then any thing.  The last one I did, I got my deck carpeted and mounted my rails (all cleaned and free of old paneling).  Then working one section at a time, I cut to length using tin snips.  Next, using a straight edge, "score" the panel with a Stanley knife to your correct height.  The unused portion will simply snap off.  With the aid of some silicone spray lube, I slid the new panel in to the channel, and used a hammer & dolly to tap it back down.  Nice, clean install.




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Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/15/2014 at 10:46am
I do have the extruded lip. Ughh!
 
Make things worse, I just read that I should let it dry for 24 hours on the glue jug and 48 hours on the carpet instructions.  Is this required?  I want to lay the carpet and start mounting the fishing seats and rails today too.  Is that too soon?
 
here are the pics of my plywood/carpet and color scheme.
 
 


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/15/2014 at 11:26am
I finished my carpet at 2 pm and let it go until 9 am before I started doing anything on it. You are in Cali though and if it is hot and sunny ...... I would let it dry today and start on it tomorrow... IMHO.Confused

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22mph
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Posted By: Barnmb7117
Date Posted: 02/15/2014 at 10:40pm
Looking really good. Keep up the good work. Is that the blue sleet metal for the fencing?

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1993 Tracker fishing barge 21
2015 Evinrude pontoon series 90 hp
Summer - On the wolf River Weyauwega, WI
Winter- Chicago, IL


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/16/2014 at 10:45am
Originally posted by Barnmb7117 Barnmb7117 wrote:

Looking really good. Keep up the good work. Is that the blue sleet metal for the fencing?
 
It is blue sheet metal, but not from PS. I preferred this color and I didn't see it available there.
 


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/16/2014 at 10:47am
Originally posted by curtiscapk curtiscapk wrote:

I finished my carpet at 2 pm and let it go until 9 am before I started doing anything on it. You are in Cali though and if it is hot and sunny ...... I would let it dry today and start on it tomorrow... IMHO.Confused
 
It was HOT yesterday.  The glue was alrady drying before I got the carpet down.  When I did the 2nd side the 1st side was already stuck pretty good.  But, then again, I did roll that half immediately.
 


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/16/2014 at 1:36pm
Installed the carpet, got half of the toons siding on. I do have the extruded lip which wasn't too tough to slide into place on the straight runs, but when I got to the corners, good Lord what a nightmare. I couldn't get it around them without damaging the siding. Small little dents. Oh well, it still looks better than the old siding. Going to post pics when I get home.


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/16/2014 at 3:43pm
ClapClapClapClapClap
Can't wait to see the pics!

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Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/17/2014 at 11:35am
carpet laid out
 
 
carpet folded for glue, couldn't get pics of us rolling the glue on with the paint rollers, because it was hot and drying quickly, but it was easy.
 
 
rolling the carpet with a linoleum roller.
 
 
first beer on the pon toon and nurenberger brats for lunch
 
 
First panel.  I used a Malco 12" folding tool to bend a 3/8" fold on the ends instead of using a piece of molding to cover the sharp edges.  Worked great!!!  I don't have a good picture of that though.  When I do the other panels, I will get some pics of the tool and folds.
 
 
188" panel that had to go through 2 bends at the back.  What a pain in the a**!!! Like I said, it still looks better than it did though!
 
 
Once, I get the other front piece back from the welder, it had 2 bent bars, I will add the panel to it and also the other 188" long rail.  The welder could not find the right alumium with the rounded edges, so i am just using square aluminum, which is all right because it is only 2 12" upright pieces.  Then, I am done and can mount them.  Can't wait to get them in and put in some new furniture from PS.  Plus, it will be nice to get it out of my garage!!!!
 
Clap


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/17/2014 at 12:36pm
That looks AWESOME! Nice job! I love that blue color!Clap

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22mph
OP KS
Truman Lake


Posted By: Barnmb7117
Date Posted: 02/17/2014 at 3:43pm
Clap I like the blue that is what i want to change mine to.

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1993 Tracker fishing barge 21
2015 Evinrude pontoon series 90 hp
Summer - On the wolf River Weyauwega, WI
Winter- Chicago, IL


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/17/2014 at 4:25pm
By the way... your first Dry boatin on the pontoon!!!!LOLLOLLOLLOLWink 
 
Felt good didn't it?Star


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22mph
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Truman Lake


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/17/2014 at 4:31pm
Originally posted by curtiscapk curtiscapk wrote:

By the way... your first Dry boatin on the pontoon!!!!LOLLOLLOLLOLWink 
 
Felt good didn't it?Star
 
Yes it did. Is it wrong, I am already looking for another project?
 
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/boa/4333568916.html" rel="nofollow - http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/boa/4333568916.html
 
Wacko
 


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/17/2014 at 4:45pm
No sir you are an ADDICT!
 
BTW that is a great price!StarOuchConfusedDeadCryLOL


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22mph
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Truman Lake


Posted By: PS-Guy
Date Posted: 02/17/2014 at 4:46pm
That's a smokin deal for a P-H if the motor is good and it comes with the trailer.  You better snatch it up before I make the trip LOL




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Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/17/2014 at 5:01pm
Originally posted by PS-Guy PS-Guy wrote:

That's a smokin deal for a P-H if the motor is good and it comes with the trailer.  You better snatch it up before I make the trip LOL
 
Problem is I would probably have to buy a bigger truck too.  Or is that a problem?
 


Posted By: PS-Guy
Date Posted: 02/17/2014 at 5:03pm
Bonus!!!

Tongue


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Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/20/2014 at 11:13am
Went home and spent 3 hours on the toon after work.  Wire brushed the front and rear cross member rails, the trim for both and the transom plate.  Installed all of the trim and put the bolts through the transom plate.  I found out my German torque specs (gootentite) don't work on stainless steel after breaking one.  Right now the 8 bolts are stainless 1/4".  I was thinking of drilling out the holes to fit some of the stainless rail mount bolts through there.  Can't hurt right?
 
 


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/20/2014 at 9:58pm
Tonight I put in the panel on the other side long rail. Tomorrow I get the last rail from the welder and start bolting them down Saturday.


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/21/2014 at 8:58am
ClapClapClapStarStarStar

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Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/21/2014 at 1:24pm
This is the fold i was talking about at the ends to make it not sharp without molding.  Sorry these are low light, pre-dawn pictures.  They are still better than the no light, night pictures.
 
 
 
Just noticed all of the recycled coors light cans there. There must be a drunk that lives around there! Wink
 


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/21/2014 at 1:31pm
I should have cleaned the toons while it was stripped down to the rails.  Oh well, I am sure I can still giter'dun!


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/21/2014 at 2:12pm
Just noticed all of the recycled coors light cans there. There must be a drunk that lives around there!
same as this.... but bud lite!
 
I bag all mine up and once a quarter take them in and usually get a free case with the money I get back from the recycler. this next trip may be 2 cases!
 


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Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/24/2014 at 11:03am
Saturday I was able to get all of the rails bolted down and the furniture put together and arranged.  I have not bolted them down yet because I think I am going to need to go back and silicone the extruded lips or I am going to have to change her name to the Rattleship! There were a few cervezas consumed on the pon Toon that night!
 
 
 
I don't think I am going to put siding in that small middle section of the front door.  Allow a little air and better vision IMO.
 
 
What do you think of those round driving lights?  Someone told me driving lights are not recommended because it meeses up your night vision and those of any other boats around.  Plus they said it may make it harder to see your navigation lights. I know, I wouldn't mind being able to see the river as I am navigationg at night.
 


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/24/2014 at 11:12am
that looks awesome! The lights are usually called docking lights! Only used for docking! If you had those on while navigating you would probably get stopped by the MAN! Most people use a spot light for occasional glimpses of their area at night. If you had those suckers on all the time you would only be able to see directly in front of you and be blinded everywhere else, in my opinion of course.
 
You are making quick work compared to my build. I started on 1-29 of last year and still not done all the way.Ouch
 
 
Keep up the great work! My front gate only has the middle section filled in. I am going to do just the opposite and fill in the bottom section, because of my daughters dog always wanting to jump out!


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Truman Lake


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/24/2014 at 11:31am
Sunday, I was able to get the 4 fishing seats mounted and the decals put on. I guess the next step is to mount the motor, run the cables and wiring.  I need to build the box that is going to house the tanks, batteries and live well.  I am going to use one long box for the tanks and batteries along the opposite side of the back seats.  I plan on putting a piece of plywood between to seperate them, for spark/fuel vapor concerns, with individual lids.  I'll probably put some foam tape around the edges as well.  Do I need to put a vent or two in the fuel tank box section? The plan is to put carpeting on the outsides with the left over carpet and using vinyl for the lids.
 
 
The decals are not applied as well as I would have liked.  I didn't use enough soapy water and I have a ton of air bubbles.  You can only see them when you get close.  I guess that is fine, because I beat the crud out of the new siding which you can see in the picture too.  Ugh!!!  Next time, i do not used the extruded lip, I will just screw it or rivet it down instead.  That crud is a pain!!!
 
 
Oh yea.  I still need to clean the toons.
 
I plan to be on the water sometime next month!!!!  Fingers crossed.
 
Big smile


Posted By: SunBlocker
Date Posted: 02/24/2014 at 11:33am
Like Craig said... the docking lights are to only be used during DOCKING!!  Not while underway.

In my area running with your docking lights on is technically illegal... but sadly it is not properly enforced.  And I wish it was.  We have way too many folks who treat them like headlights at night and they are a true hazard!


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Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/24/2014 at 11:34am
Going to place an order today from pontoonstuff.com as well.  I need to order some matching vinyl and the aluminum corner caps.  After all of this work the old rubber ones just don't look right!
 
It's only money right?
 


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/24/2014 at 11:41am
Originally posted by SunBlocker SunBlocker wrote:

Like Craig said... the docking lights are to only be used during DOCKING!!  Not while underway.

In my area running with your docking lights on is technically illegal... but sadly it is not properly enforced.  And I wish it was.  We have way too many folks who treat them like headlights at night and they are a true hazard!
 
Thank you both for that info.  I guess, I will just use some standard "docking" lights then. That's why I asked all you knowledgable folks!
 
I was also planning to use them if we decide to do some night swimming.
 


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/26/2014 at 11:28am
Last night, I had to go buy a 3-1/4" hole saw to install my steering wheel.  Then, I had to pull out the tap and die set to fix the threads I beat up trying to remove the steering wheel originally.  I laid out the pattern for the switch panels and guages as well. 
 
 
I bought 2, seasense, 5 switch with 12 volt charger panels.  More switches than I think I will need, but who knows what crazy stuff I will add in the future.  As, I was looking at the wiring, I realized what a nightmare it is going to be. 
 
The new switches come with 3, in line fuses going to 2 switches each.  So, I wouldn't need the fuse block any more and could just add 2 terminal strips, 1 for power, 1 for ground. 
 
Or, I could cut out the in line fuses and use the OEM fuse and ground panel, that way each switch gets its own fuse again and wire it from there.  The switches are power in, power out only, so all of the grounds are designed to go to the main ground terminal.  Which, for my simple mind is a lot easier as all of the jumpers on the OEM panel switches confuse the crud out of me.
 
Then, I am going to figure out how to wire the tach, volt and hour gauge. 
 
UGHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Wacko
 


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 02/26/2014 at 11:45am
Forgot to add what switches I plan to run:
 
> Nav lights, including the white "clearance" light.
> Docking lights
> Stern lights
> 2 white, led way lights.  One up front, maybe in the front of my console and one in the rear on the end of my battery box.
> Livewell
 
These are why I need the additional 5 switch panel
> Radio, I guess, not sure if this really needs a seperate switch
> Fish finder
> Under deck, blue led's
> Under seat, blue led's.  My 6x9 speakers have built in blue led's with seperate leads and I may just use them for the under seat light, as 2 are going to be mounted in the port bench seats and two are going to be mounted in the front 2 boxes I need to build yet.  So, I am going to see if they give off enough light to meet my needs.  That is the whole reason I went with them.  The youtube videos I have found show them flickering with the bass of the music, but I think that is probably because they didn't run a seperate power source and only used the current from the speaker wire.  I guess we will find out. http://www.qualitymobilevideo.com/ts69.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.qualitymobilevideo.com/ts69.html . 
 
I could just run all the blue LED's with the way lights, or the blue under seats and under deck together, but I have the switches, so why not?
 
Can you think of any other accessories I may need switches for?
 
 


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 02/26/2014 at 11:57am
Originally posted by LuvDLions LuvDLions wrote:

Last night, I had to go buy a 3-1/4" hole saw to install my steering wheel.  Then, I had to pull out the tap and die set to fix the threads I beat up trying to remove the steering wheel originally.  I laid out the pattern for the switch panels and guages as well. 
 
 
 
I bought 2, seasense, 5 switch with 12 volt charger panels.  More switches than I think I will need, but who knows what crazy stuff I will add in the future.  As, I was looking at the wiring, I realized what a nightmare it is going to be. 
 
The new switches come with 3, in line fuses going to 2 switches each.  So, I wouldn't need the fuse block any more and could just add 2 terminal strips, 1 for power, 1 for ground. 
 
Or, I could cut out the in line fuses and use the OEM fuse and ground panel, that way each switch gets its own fuse again and wire it from there.  The switches are power in, power out only, so all of the grounds are designed to go to the main ground terminal.  Which, for my simple mind is a lot easier as all of the jumpers on the OEM panel switches confuse the crud out of me.
 
Then, I am going to figure out how to wire the tach, volt and hour gauge. 
 
UGHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Wacko
 
 
try this diagram for your switches.... no hour meter though.. It helped me a lot of course no fuse block since the switches all had breakers...... but a bus would be fine!
 
Since this question seems to come up on a fairly regular basis, figured may as well put something here.
General Instrument Wiring Diagram.
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22mph
OP KS
Truman Lake


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/02/2014 at 10:08am
So, yesterday it was cold and rainy here in SoCal. I don't mind because we definitely need the rain, plus I pulled my console out and worked on it in the garage. Here is what I got done.



I still need to get a glove box to put in opposite of the radio.



I cut out a 6x16 piece of aluminum diamond plate I had lying around to make this mounting plate for the fuse block and any other accessories that need to be mounted inside the console. I didn't like the idea of screwing everything directly to the plastic on the console. I mounted it with 4 stainless bolts and nuts with a spacer between the console and plate.



Here it is all wired up and ready to go. As, you can see, everything is labeled at the fuse block and at the switches. I think I am going to get some of those rubber sleeve clamps and mount them at all 4 of the bolts to run the wires through for a cleaner finish.
Today, I am going to wire the guages and if the weather lightens up, mount the motor and run the controls, so I can figure out where I am going to mount my console and get this thing wired up. I need to get as much done this weekend, as I am going to be in Vegas next weekend. It will be the first weekend since I bought it that I haven't worked on it. I hope to have it on the water to find out if it floats by March 28th. If all goes well, we will take our first river trip of the year the next weekend for my son's 18th birthday!  Party




Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 03/02/2014 at 2:01pm
Looks awesome!

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OP KS
Truman Lake


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/03/2014 at 12:18pm

Thanks Curtis!

I was able to get outside between the sprinkles and figure out what wires on my OEM plug corresponded with the wires in the harness for the original lights and accessories.  Then I was able to wire that plug into my new switches and fuse block.  All the important stuff is ready to plug and play!  I will have to run new wires for my LED's under the toon as well as the speaker wires and power to the built in LED's in them. 
 
 
 


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 03/03/2014 at 12:49pm
That looks a heck of a lot better than mine! I need to go back in there and tidy everything up.... It is  a little hard fitting in this door thoughConfusedOuch
 


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Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/06/2014 at 2:08pm
This is what my new speakers look like with the built in led's
 


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/06/2014 at 2:15pm
I built my battery/gas tank box last night.  Going to use the leftover carpet on the sides and get matching vinyl for the top.  Still need to build 2 for the front.  One for the bait tank and one to match on the other side for storage.  Just to make it symmetrical.
 
 
I plan to add one more piece of plywood between the tanks.  I didn't originally plan too but if I do, it will be sturdy enough to stand/sit on.
 


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 03/06/2014 at 3:08pm
Absolutely Beautiful!

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Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/14/2014 at 11:06am
Not a lot to post about lately.  We went to Vegas last weekend, so I didn't get a whole lot done.  I have been working on finishing all of the boxes after work though.  I used plywood from home depot, so I am painting them with an exterior paint, hoping it will help some.  I hope to have them finished tonight so I can carpet the sides and vinyl the lids. 
 
 
I have made a list of things left to do.  Think I can finish this weekend?  I have everything I need.  I am going to call some buddies and have a "finish this damn pontoon" party!  We'll see who shows up to help and who gets to go out on it first.  Wink
 


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/15/2014 at 6:46pm
HELP!!!

The new motor and controls aren't long enough to reach where they need to be mounted. The control calls on the Johnson were on the right side of the motor. The mercury is on the left, too damn far away with same length (12') cables. So.... I'm stuck!  I was thinking this control with 15' cables would work. 

http://www.go2marine.com/item/253476/side-mount-remote-control-881170a3-881170a20-881170a15-881170a15.html

I was wondering if I could mount a surface style one on the left top of my console but they don't come with key switches, so I would have to try to figure that out. 




Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/15/2014 at 8:58pm
Crisis converted! I figured out how to change the cables! Hopefully I can get them soon.


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/15/2014 at 9:00pm
Averted! Dang phone!


Posted By: Joetoon
Date Posted: 03/15/2014 at 10:52pm
First of all it looks great. Second sounds like your on the right track with your cables. I spent days looking for a way to hook new style steering to and old motor. hope the cables work for you.

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Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/24/2014 at 12:30pm
Almost done!
 
I plan to be on the water next Sunday to see if it floats.  I still have to upholster cushions/lids for two of the 3 boxes I built and mount the front right one. This is not a top priority as I can get it on the water without them. Top priority, is getting the speakers installed in the seat bases, so I can bolt them down, figuring out where I am going to plumb the drain for the built in cooler, so I can bolt it down and running power to the white light in the back.  Oh yeah, I need to install the registration decals yet. 
 
This is the box for my livewell.  I used 1" foam and matched the vinyl on my fishing seats rather than the vinyl on my loungers.  I have the corner piece cut but I am waiting for my cupholders to come in before i get them in.  There will be a matching box on the other side as well for storage.  I mounted the boxes to the rail and the floor, so they are STURDY! Only problem is, I went past the rail and the latch won't work anymore, but I have already formulated a plan for a new design.
 
 
 


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 03/24/2014 at 12:39pm
Looks awesome!ClapClap

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22mph
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Truman Lake


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/24/2014 at 1:01pm
I also got the new control cables installed and ran to the motor which I mounted last week.  I cut a piece of diamond plate to mount to my rails for the control box.  I decided to put the back, brushed aluminum side to the outside to match the rails.  I ran the control cables, battery cables, fuel lines and steering cables, wiring harness and plug it all in.  I rtan them through nice, new, pretty shifter boots to keep some of the water out.  At the bottm of the gas/battery boxes, I used some of the seatings plastic packaging as a liner around the bottom, which already came in handy, as the tank leaked under the side handle where there was a broken weld and at the gasket for the fuel hook up.
 
 


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/24/2014 at 1:10pm

I was also able to run the wiring and hook up the front nav lights and docking lights as well.  The old lights were square and mounted about 8" closer to the center on each side, obviously I went in a different direction.  Amazingly enough, when I plugged in the wiring harness to all of my wiring in the console it all worked.  So far anyway.  I also hooked up my brand new oogah horn! Nice and annoying!!!



Posted By: PS-Guy
Date Posted: 03/24/2014 at 2:10pm
Looking great!   Tongue

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Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 03/24/2014 at 2:51pm
Those boxes are great!

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Craig n Paula
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94 Party Barge 24' 115 merc
22mph
OP KS
Truman Lake


Posted By: Barnmb7117
Date Posted: 03/24/2014 at 5:50pm
Coming a long nice. I really like the blue fence panel.

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Mike
1993 Tracker fishing barge 21
2015 Evinrude pontoon series 90 hp
Summer - On the wolf River Weyauwega, WI
Winter- Chicago, IL


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/25/2014 at 11:08am

Thanks guys, I appreciate the positive feedback!  It has been an experience.  I am happy I am nearing the point I can get it on the water. 

Last night, I cut out the 6x9's in the lounge seat bases and mounted all of those seats.  Tonight, I plan to see what I can find to hard pipe the drain from the built in cooler seat.  I want to pipe straight into it and out the floor with a shut-off valve before I mount it.
 


Posted By: Jcarr
Date Posted: 03/25/2014 at 5:06pm
I'm loving your layout and the small speaker boxes in the front.

I may have to copy your layout next winter, the front office is not liking the original Lowe sundeck set up and wants seats in the back like yours.

I on the other hand think I should've went with the flip-flop seat behind the console like you did, more storage and a wider seat for my wider seat.

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John Carr
1989 Lowe 240 24'


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/26/2014 at 12:07am
This is what I did for the drain in the flip seat cooler.  I snapped a pic before I cleaned because I was running out of light.  You can also see the 4x6 that I used as a spacer to move my console and seat out from the railing.  There was previously a storage box for rods here, but I decided not to do that.  The folding ladder fits in there perfectly.  I think I am going to have to find something to secure it so it doesn't rattle though.  All of the seats are secure now! Clap




Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 03/26/2014 at 9:05am
I may have to steal that idea from you LDL..... I just planned on emptying mine out on the deck .......

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94 Party Barge 24' 115 merc
22mph
OP KS
Truman Lake


Posted By: LuvDLions
Date Posted: 03/26/2014 at 12:04pm
Originally posted by curtiscapk curtiscapk wrote:

I may have to steal that idea from you LDL..... I just planned on emptying mine out on the deck .......
 
LDL? The only google results I found for that was "long distance lover"... Confused
 


Posted By: curtiscapk
Date Posted: 03/26/2014 at 12:19pm
LuvDLions!

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Craig n Paula
http://www.pontoonboatforum.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=7781&title=the-floater-rebuild" rel="nofollow - THE FLOATER Rebuild
94 Party Barge 24' 115 merc
22mph
OP KS
Truman Lake



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