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Topic: 2ltime 1981 Muncie Metal Spinning 24ft
Posted By: 2ltime
Subject: 2ltime 1981 Muncie Metal Spinning 24ft
Date Posted: 04/11/2009 at 11:43am

Here is the start of my rebuild adventure.  I purchased this pontoon just for the trailer.  Turns out the trailer was worthless, but the boat is all aluminum and in better shape then the other one I have. I had to block up the pontoon take the trailer home and completely rebuild it.  All new steel. Only thing I reused was the axle and winch stand.  I will try and document my journey for all to enjoy.


After getting it home and a quick pressure wash



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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp



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Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 04/11/2009 at 11:50am
Here is the start of the teardown.  The aluminum canopy is going.  We are going to add a bimini at some point.  All the seats are rotted out, steering cable is bad and the 78 Merc 500 50HP that is on it all the wiring is dry rotted.  Not sure if it even runs.  It has been sitting in a field for 8 years.














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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 04/11/2009 at 11:56am
Everything is has been removed.  3 hours of pressure washing to get all the old glue off but it is now ready for new carpet.  Carpet went on easily.  I am cleaning all the railings.  Man is that alot of work.  I am using an air angle grinder with fine cleaning pads. A before and after picture is below.  Removed all the old aluminum panels and prepped them for paint.  Just going to repaint white for now.  Will do some striping later.












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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 04/11/2009 at 2:19pm
Welcome Tom. Looks like it"s coming along nicely. Look forward to your pics..


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 04/12/2009 at 7:51pm

The panels have been repainted and installed.  Installed the new console and new steering.  Testing placement of the captains chair.  I need a new one but, the budget is a little light at the moment.  Might try and repair this one for now.




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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 04/12/2009 at 9:06pm
That does look good


Posted By: CajunDiver
Date Posted: 04/12/2009 at 10:32pm
Looking good. Welcome aboard.

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89 Tracker Party Hut rebuilt & modified for 2009
Excellent Member Of The Month Club 12/08
"Guns don't kill people the government does"--Rusty Shackleford


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 04/13/2009 at 8:10am
Here is a picture of our other pontoon.  We bought this first without a trailer with the thought of rebuilding.  It has a nice large deck.  But the other pontoon we bought for the trailer was a nicer boat but smaller deck.  All aluminum.  Less cost to get ready.  So at the moment I have 2 pontoon boats.  Not sure what we are going to do with this one.  Sell, part out maybe even rebuild as it does have a bigger deck.  Anyway this is the boat that started it all.  Thanks to everyone on this forum, we have learned so much from you guys.




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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: peppyjd
Date Posted: 04/14/2009 at 6:51am
Hi 2ltime---thanks for sharing your pics.  I am almost done restoring the railing on my pontoon, and it looks like you did the same.  If so, what process and products did you use?

Boat looks great!


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Jenn
Charlottesville, VA
85 Harris Sunliner 24ft
85 Johnson 70 hp
Kayak: Tarpon 160i


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 04/14/2009 at 9:05am
The railings were heavily corroded.  I tried using some fine sanding sponges but it just would not take it off.  I ended up using a 3 inch fine sanding pad 99986-0VGA
on a 1/4 in right angle air die grinder(93157-2VGA). The holder is number 9560-0VGA
All purchased from Harbor Freight.  Got to love that store.  Using this method will leave some swirl marks in the aluminum.  I had started to buff the marks out to a mirror shine but decided it was not worth the extra time.  I liked the brushed aluminum look.


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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 04/14/2009 at 9:11am
You better put some toon brite protectant (or your choice of protectant) then on those rails you"ll have worse problems to deal with later cleaning them.   When you get the urge to polish again, try some 0000 steel wool if the scratches aren"t real bad.


Posted By: peppyjd
Date Posted: 04/14/2009 at 11:11am

Interesting---thanks!  I have 25 years of oxidation on mine, and have tried several techniques and polishes.  My latest technique produced pretty good results- a quick sand with a orbital sander with 150 grit, another pass with 220 grit, then a quick hand sand with a 320 grit sponge caked up with old polish.  Takes out the swirl marks.  Then a quick brush with metal polish on a paper towel.  Not a mirror shine, but restored aluminum that looks nearly new.  I think you may have less steps which is very good! 

I checked out that little right angle grinder---that looks pretty good.  I have a pancake type air compressor that gets up to about 125 psi--its a cheap one but works for a small nailer.  Do you know if that kind of think would work with an air angle grinder?

 



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Jenn
Charlottesville, VA
85 Harris Sunliner 24ft
85 Johnson 70 hp
Kayak: Tarpon 160i


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 04/14/2009 at 4:02pm
Thanks for the protectant tip WD.  The angle grinders are real air hogs.  It is the cfm that is most important.  You might have a little problem with air.  But when they go on sale at Harbor Freight for $15 you can"t go wrong.  That it what I paid.


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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 04/18/2009 at 6:58pm

Some more work done after a brief camping outing with the kids.  Stripping and lettering is done.  Steering is hooked up on new brackets.  Looks pretty good after powder coating.  No more rust worries.  Had to order a new throttle cable.  Moving the console made the old cable 2 ft to short.  All that"s left before a test run, is mounting the fuel tanks and battery box.  Not going to do furniture this season.  Going to save up and order a set for next season.



***gave space at end of 1st paragraph so pics would line up***



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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: VaGent
Date Posted: 04/18/2009 at 7:49pm

Hey Tom, you sure have done a great job on the toon. LOOKING GOOD!!!  The James River is calling your name. Listen!! Can you hear it? That river is crying for you to put that toon in the water. Go for it.

 

I went by Bass Pro Shoppe today. I was like a kid in a candy store.



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Les
"Atta Boy Award July 2010"
"Excellent Member Of The Month Club 07/09"
1984 24ft JC
2011 E-TEC 90 hp
1993 Voyager 24ft Pontoon
2006 E-TEC 90 hp


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 04/18/2009 at 7:56pm
Looks great Tom. Nice job..


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 04/18/2009 at 9:24pm
From the looks of the toons, they shouldn"t be hard to shine them up if you wanted to, should shine real nice. Good lettering job too


Posted By: peppyjd
Date Posted: 04/18/2009 at 9:54pm
Your toon looks great!  Your lettering and striping look very sharp.  WCD is right about getting some sort of sealer (Toonbrite, sharkhide etc) on the rails.  Apparently is takes no time to oxidize.   I had obvious color changes in mine in less than a week after not getting a protectant on all the exposed aluminum I had just cleaned and polished.  Learned that I don"t want to do that twice!

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Jenn
Charlottesville, VA
85 Harris Sunliner 24ft
85 Johnson 70 hp
Kayak: Tarpon 160i


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 04/18/2009 at 9:58pm
Yep, do a section and once you"re satisfied, protect it.


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 04/26/2009 at 2:19pm
We made it to the water, Unfortunately that is as far as we got.  Would not idle once i in the water.  But at least it floats, and the trailer does sink.  Made trailer from rect tube and sealed all the ends.  Should not have a rust problem now.  Anyway had a nice burger by the water and pulled the boat out.  Rebuilt the carbs yesterday.  Lower carb was full of crud.  Need to do some more tuning and get the idle set and then will try again at the lake. 



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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: CajunDiver
Date Posted: 04/26/2009 at 3:02pm

Looks good on the water. That float test is mandatory. At least she didn"t leave you stranded in the lake and quit at the dock.



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89 Tracker Party Hut rebuilt & modified for 2009
Excellent Member Of The Month Club 12/08
"Guns don't kill people the government does"--Rusty Shackleford


Posted By: scbadiver
Date Posted: 04/28/2009 at 11:14am
We had the same prolem when we launched ours the first time. It ran fine on the shore but wouldn"t run in the water. Fortunately the local machanic was there and we pulled it and he fixed it on the spot and got us running that evening. You"ll be out there enjoying it soon! Great job on the rebuild.

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Robbie
St Charles, MO
1975 Landau 28'
70hp Johnson


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 05/04/2009 at 8:09am
Thanks for all the kinds words folks.  With out this site would probably not have done this.  I finally relented and took the boat into a mechanic to get the idle adjusted.  I am too frustrated with it.  Should have it back by this weekend.  Then a few more odds and ends.  Still have to plan for seating, but will have to wait for budget to catch up to desires.  Will probably rebuild the bases on the old junk seats.  At least to get thru the season.

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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: slow_n_easy
Date Posted: 05/05/2009 at 8:52am
Very nice! Keep the pics coming as you progress...

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Austin, Texas
1986 Suntracker Bass Buggy 20ft
75HP Mercury 2-stroke


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06/12/2010 at 11:31pm
2ltime thanks for contacting me to reopen this thread for you, we always look forward to seeing our members pics and news on their rebuilds


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/13/2010 at 7:28am
Well it has been awhile but here is an update.  After trying all last summer to get the old johnson to run consistantly I gave up.  The mechanic and I went out several times and he would adjust on the water and it would be fine, the next time I would try and go out with the family we never left the dock.  If you could get up to WOT it ran great just not at idle.  Long story shorter I replaced the old 71 50hp with a 85 60hp of another pontoon I had.  Had the mechanic rebuild the lower unit and it is running pretty good now.  Here are some pics of the family out on the lake yesterday morning.  Never anyone out in the morning, nice and quiet.





One issue I had was the motor was set to low(see above).  I raised it 3 inches on the transom by drilling new holes.  I still think it might be sitting too low in the water.  I will take a picture later to show the new location.  I think I now have to raise the transom as I am out of room to move the motor up on the transom.


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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/13/2010 at 7:47am
Here is the motor after moving up as high as it would go.  I think it is still sitting down too far in the water but not sure how too tell.  The boat sits pretty high up at the moment as it is all aluminum and very light.  No furniture yet.  I am afraid when I load it up and it sits lower the motor will be back down too far again.  Any thoughts?





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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: VaGent
Date Posted: 06/13/2010 at 8:39am
The motor really does low Tom but I am not versed enough in knowing how high/low it should be. The transom on my JC sit a lot higher then I see on yours. I"m sure someone else on the forum can tell you much better then myself. The pontoon is looking good & I"m glad to see you back on the forum. I hope to have mine ready for the water by mid July if all goes well.

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Les
"Atta Boy Award July 2010"
"Excellent Member Of The Month Club 07/09"
1984 24ft JC
2011 E-TEC 90 hp
1993 Voyager 24ft Pontoon
2006 E-TEC 90 hp


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06/13/2010 at 10:05am
Remember, each boat sits differently in the water (Higher or lower). What you need to look at is how far the cavitation plate is below the waterline. Your toon sits exceptionally high in the water and therefore your plate will also be higher. To me, it looks like if you place the cavitation plate even with the bottom of the transom, the prop will darn near be out of the water due to how high your toon sits..


Posted By: p3cflyr
Date Posted: 06/13/2010 at 11:23am
From the two stern shots it appears the bottom of the transom is out of the water.  Don"t think the normal "cavitation plate even with the bottom of the transom" will work well here.

Mike 

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Mike

"Atta Boy" Award June 2011
1987 Lowes Fish and Fun 20ft
1999 Merc 50hp 4 strk big foot
Kirksville, Mo
P3C Orion Pilot
ASW Warfare Specialist


Posted By: KenC1
Date Posted: 06/13/2010 at 8:26pm
Tom do you know whether the transom has been replaced or modified?   I"m like adakops, I don"t think your motor placement will make any difference.  The transom looks way too high to me.  JMHO

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Ken - Fort Gibson Lake, OK
1997 SunTracker 21ft
Fishin' Barge
1997 90hp Merc


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/14/2010 at 8:29am
The transom is adjustable a little bit.  I think I will try that next.  What is the relationship between the cavitation plate and the water line supposed to be?





The gray piece is a leftover from the old steering cable attachment.


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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: Woody
Date Posted: 06/14/2010 at 9:41am
I"m confused. The owner is saying it looks to him like the motor is setting too low, and others think it is setting too high. I"m with Rick, it appears that if it were setting any higher the prop would be out of the water. The critical test is how the cavitation plate sits in relation to the water level, and if it ventilates while running.

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Woody & Marilyn
Covington, LA
Boating in SE Louisiana and
Cedar Creek Lake, TX
Excellent Member of the Month Club 6/09


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/14/2010 at 10:45am
That is really my problem I do not know enough to know where the cav plate should be in relation to the water line.  The boat sits up real high but the motor was sitting real low in the water.  The bottom of the transom is just above the waterline.  What I think is the cav plate actually sits below the waterline a little. How do you know if it is ventilating?

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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06/14/2010 at 11:55am

Ventilation is the result of air or exhaust gases being pulled into the propeller blades. This causes the blades to lose their grip on the water, the engine RPMs go up and the forward speed of the boat is reduced. Sometimes when the propeller RPMs increase, it can also cause a massive cavitation, which only compounds the problem. Most outboard and stern-drive engines have anti-ventilation plates made onto the lower unit housing directly above the propeller. Many people mistakenly call them cavitation plates or possibly anti-cavitation plates, but that is incorrect. The anti-ventilation plate does not stop or help prevent cavitation. Its sole purpose is to prevent surface air from being sucked into the negative pressure side of the propeller blades.

Ventilation can also come from exhaust gases being introduced into the blades of the prop. Most propellers have some sort of ring around the trailing edge of the exhaust hub. This ring creates a high-pressure barrier that prevents exhaust gases from being sucked back into the blades. Other sources for ventilation include the leading edge and sides of the motorís lower unit and the bottom of the boat. Inspect your lower-unit housing for any imperfections in the surface directly in front of the propeller. Knicks, gouges, scratches or barnacles can all disturb the water flow to the propeller, and cause ventilation.

For some more reference see http://www.boatfix.com/how/props.html - http://www.boatfix.com/how/props.html



Posted By: p3cflyr
Date Posted: 06/14/2010 at 12:45pm
We"re all in the same ball park here.  Just addressing the issue of engine height differently.  So, 2ltime, why do you think it is too low.  What does it do that makes you think it is too low, or was too low.

The recommendation I have seen the most is the plate (anti cav, cav, anti air, whatever) is set near level the bottom of the transom pan on pontoon boats.  This also assumes the transom pan is in the water when setting at rest.  Yours appears much shallower (well above the water) than those I have seen  I"ve not seen anyone address this Plate"s relationship to the waterline as Woody has said.  Hopefully some one can address that.  I don"t have the experience to do so.   I will say my transom pan sets about 4 inches below waterline at rest.  Maybe 5, I"ll,have to check.  That would suggest that my plate is about 5 - 6  inches below the water line at rest.

But if there is some reason you believe it is low it would help.

For what all of this is worth.

Mike


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Mike

"Atta Boy" Award June 2011
1987 Lowes Fish and Fun 20ft
1999 Merc 50hp 4 strk big foot
Kirksville, Mo
P3C Orion Pilot
ASW Warfare Specialist


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06/14/2010 at 12:58pm
I agree with Woody and adakops. Actually I have some concern even about the structure of your transom piece as there doesn"t seem to be sufficient secureness (for lack of a better word) which would put more stress on your support members. But with the information you now have in hand, see how far down the cavitation plate is under water. The normal rational for cavitation plate to transom went out the window with yours so you can"t use that. Also, put people on board to simulate what weight you"ll have if you had furniture (if you"re adding furniture), batteries, gas and whatever your normal carrying capacity is, otherwise you"ll be doing this "adjusting" again when you do get everything on board as you may find the motor really down in the water when fully loaded.


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/14/2010 at 3:42pm
Thanks guys,

I am not sure it is too low now.  I raised it 3 inches and it runs better now, a whole lot less water kicked up out back. I think it was just pushing a lot of water.  The motor was almost invisible before behind a wall of water.  I was really just wanted to make sure I was close to where it should be.  I think the av plate is now about 2 inches below the service when loaded.  I can"t raise the motor on the transom but I think if it needs to still come up I can adjust the transom up.  It is the original transom.  This boat came as an electric model but is rated for 60hp.   It is supprisingly stable. 

my next big issue is water spray coming over the front.  They did not put splash guards on the toon cones.  I am going to have to have some made and welded on. If you are going more than a couple mph everyone gets wet.





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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06/14/2010 at 3:50pm
Most definitely need splash guards then. Don"t confuse the ventilation plate with the cavitation plate though, oh I see you meant surface when you wrote service (whew threw me for a loop)


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/20/2010 at 7:15pm

Ok, did another trip on the lake yesterday.  Running better, but I think I am going to raise the transom a little bit.  The plate is still down about 3 inches below the surface.  Next issue is the splash guards.  Here are photos of the front.  I need to go find myself a good aluminum welder.

 



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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06/20/2010 at 7:24pm
3 inches below the surface at rest or when running wide open? Reson I ask is that when running, the motor will tend to lift some. I"d be afraid if you go too much higher, the prop may ventilate. But if it"s easy for you to test it, then it couldn"t hurt to go up some more and give it a try.


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/20/2010 at 7:39pm

It is running low at speed.  Because my boat is so lite(and sits so high) when I finally add seating it will sit even lower.

I am going to make sure to see some examples from whomever I find to do the welding.  I have to get those guards on as I get alot of spray coming over the front even at lower speeds.



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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/23/2010 at 7:04pm
Well I think found a good welder.  He does all the local marina"s and has been doing pontoons since the first one showed up on the lake back in the early 70"s.  Should have it back in a week.  I will post some pics when I get it back.  Fingers crossed.

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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 07/02/2010 at 9:41am

Back from the welders. He did a nice job.  This is the transducer mount he put on the back.  Best we could come up with on this really rounded back end.



I had him extend the deck mounts as far back as he could go.  I want to move the rails back a foot and add in a permanent tank over the new section on one side and the battery on the other.  I will have to fab up some new rails for the extension.  That kind of welding I can do (or will be able to when the time comes).



The most important right now were the front splash guards.  Can"t wait to see if they work.



***added spacing between text and pics for a better view***



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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: VaGent
Date Posted: 07/02/2010 at 10:45am
You got it looking good now Tom. I like your idea of a permanent extension on the back to mount your tank & battery seperate.  Hope you are planning on getting out on thewater over the 4th.

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Les
"Atta Boy Award July 2010"
"Excellent Member Of The Month Club 07/09"
1984 24ft JC
2011 E-TEC 90 hp
1993 Voyager 24ft Pontoon
2006 E-TEC 90 hp


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07/02/2010 at 12:52pm
Looking good!


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 07/02/2010 at 6:01pm
Thanks everyone.

Just back from the lake. Wanted to beat the weekend crowds. The splash guards worked great.  Hardly a drop even at WOT.  Took the gps out and about 21mph at 4100rpm.  Pretty happy with that.  Most of the time we are just cruising slow anyway.  Nice too know it can get up and go though.

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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07/02/2010 at 6:54pm
21mph at 4100 rpm with a 60hp - WOW especially on a 24ft"r, now I"d be interested to know what it really would do at WOT and 5500 rpm


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07/02/2010 at 6:55pm
Oh and where"s the pics????


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 07/06/2010 at 8:35am

Got out on the lake yesterday evening. Did not want to fight the crowds on the weekend.  The motor is idling better.  Replaced all the rubber hoses.  Still not perfect yet.  Replaced all the bunks on the trailer. I think we have decided to build our furniture.  I will document as we go.

Some lake pics. My daughter.



Here are my boys



I think I am going to go back to the VRO.  I have all the stuff to hook back up.  I want to put a permanent tank and I do not want to have to pre-mix anymore.



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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 07/06/2010 at 9:15am
Guess I"m just a premix kinda guy. I just noticed the daugther wasn"t wearing a life vest in the 1st pic, but is in the 2nd pic and so are the boys, so I assume you guys were underway when the 2nd pic was taken and what is that she has in her hand? Vegetables? I can tell one of the boys is into crackers (or vanilla wafers maybe).


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 07/06/2010 at 10:15am
We were anchored in the first and cruising around the lake in the second.  The wife always packs fruit when we go out, also junk food.  Chicken-In-A-Biscuit crackers.  Back to 100 deg for the next few days but can"t get out until the weekend.  The wife and I are taking a boating course this weekend to get our licenses.  Not required for couple of years but I would like to know what all the signs mean.LOL

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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: CGbosun
Date Posted: 07/08/2010 at 2:11pm
Click http://http://www.examiner.com/x-15246-Richmond-Boating-Examiner~y2010m4d7-New-Virginia-boating-education-requirements - here for a summary of Virginia"s requirements.

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CGbosun
31' Playcraft 5.0 I/O
Catfish Heaven, VA



Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 07/10/2010 at 7:07pm
The wife an I finished the boat course today(9-5 long day).  Good day for it as it rained finally.  Actually learned a few things.  Now to get back to the projects.

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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 05/12/2011 at 9:31am


Found a great deal on some used furniture.  500 for a complete set.  One bench is not in picture.  Only the corner unit has any damage to the seat.  I will have to recover the seat cushions.  Now that I have seats I need to get into gear and relocate the fence, extending it out over the extensions on the rear toons I had put on last year.  Will also have to make a sun deck over to reduce the engine noise.  More updates to follow.

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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/12/2011 at 1:57pm

Here is a shot of the "new" used seating.  Cleaned up really nice.  Next will be making the new back railings.


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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/12/2011 at 2:08pm
Starting work on the rear fencing.  First shot is of the pile of aluminum I am starting with.



Here is the extensions I had put on last year.  I am going to extend the deck out over these extension then move the rear fence back 9 inches.


After much trial and error, I am using the Alumiweld rods from HF.  To much burn thru using the mig welder.  No spool gun so also a lot of jams.  Once you get the hang of these rods they really do work well.  First task to build a frame to support the deck.  Right side toon is going to house the battery and oil tank, left side a new 14 gal fuel tank


Here is the placement of the frame.  I have 1/2 inch DOT treated plywood for the deck portion.


Here is with the plywood on it.  Perfect height.  So nice when thinks actually work out.

 
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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/12/2011 at 2:13pm
I am trying to save some money so after removing the rear fence I realized it would be almost a perfect fit for the new side.  A little overhang but I ca live with that for now.  If it cools down will try and finish the fencing tonight.



I am also going to build a sundeck over top.  Mostly to cut down on engine noise while cruising around.
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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: Bo and Susan
Date Posted: 06/12/2011 at 10:05pm
Hi, That looks really good! We are hoping to do something similar to the rear of our boat. We`ll be following your thread to steal ideas LOL. Plenty of pictures please!

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Bo and Susan
91 Voyager, Yamaha 8hp
87 Sylvan 20ft, Evinrude 70hp
91 Landau 18ft
Daleville, AL.


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/18/2011 at 12:23pm
A little more progress.  All the aluminum fabrication is done.  All fit pretty good..  Waiting on my new paneling,fuel tank and switch panel to come in.  Should be here Monday.  Got my youngest son to help me out this morning before it got too hot.  Have to cut the 3/4 plywood for the sun deck.  I made a separate aluminum frame and will attach the plywood to that, then hinge it on the new railings.  I have the foam and vinyl to cover it.




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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: p3cflyr
Date Posted: 06/18/2011 at 1:32pm
Coming along nicely.  The fabrication at the stern is very nice.  Look forward to the sundeck and upholstery.  Thumbs Up

Mike


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Mike

"Atta Boy" Award June 2011
1987 Lowes Fish and Fun 20ft
1999 Merc 50hp 4 strk big foot
Kirksville, Mo
P3C Orion Pilot
ASW Warfare Specialist


Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06/18/2011 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by adakops adakops wrote:

Look forward to the sundeck and upholstery.  Thumbs Up

Mike
 
Me too! Big smile


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/25/2011 at 3:59pm
A little more work this weekend.  Starting to put it all back together.  Using vinyl for the side panels.



I used some 2x2 angle for the trim.  Works pretty good.



Here is the first side cut/bent and installed.



Before of the sundeck/cover



Finished and installed.



Here is the new tank installed



Oil tank and battery will go in here.  I will also make a door for it.



New/old captains chair installed.  Had to move the console forward 3 inches to give me some knee clearance.



I think that is enough for now.  Will get back out tonight and try and get the wiring done.


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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: p3cflyr
Date Posted: 06/26/2011 at 12:26am
Lookin good.  Are you going to cover the plywood??  You said it was DOT treated but that's new to me. 

Mike


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Mike

"Atta Boy" Award June 2011
1987 Lowes Fish and Fun 20ft
1999 Merc 50hp 4 strk big foot
Kirksville, Mo
P3C Orion Pilot
ASW Warfare Specialist


Posted By: 2ltime
Date Posted: 06/26/2011 at 7:15am
I am not going to cover the plywood extensions.  DOT(borate) is rated for outdoor use ($37 a sheet for 3/4).  Some others on here have used it (vagent, and others).

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Tom Lake Anna, VA
1981 Muncie Metal Spinning All Aluminum Funtoon 24ft 23" dia toons
1985 Johnson 60hp


Posted By: p3cflyr
Date Posted: 06/26/2011 at 12:03pm
Ah yes. Borate.  The DOT threw me.  Thanks.

Mike


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Mike

"Atta Boy" Award June 2011
1987 Lowes Fish and Fun 20ft
1999 Merc 50hp 4 strk big foot
Kirksville, Mo
P3C Orion Pilot
ASW Warfare Specialist



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