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    Posted: 06/23/2016 at 11:45pm
Rebuilding a 1990 Party Hut. Have all aluminum framing but no "walls". Have seen various posts but still not clear as to what exactly supports the upper 8x10 deck. I know there are 2 upright aluminum rails on either side of the boat just behind the side gates that support the front. But the back, is this supported by the bathroom and kitchen walls ? I don't know what else would !
 
I was planning to use just 1/2 inch thick PVC board for the walls. Will this be adequate ?
 
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Well mike, you're right, the back walls are the support for the upper deck.  The answer to the 1/2 PVC would be no, it won't.  The box configuration of the potty and the T wall on the port side do a fair job at best, really poor engineering on the designers part.  I'm in the process of rebuilding a 92 party hut myself and plan on using aluminum siding from a local truck shop bonded to 1 1/2 PVC and bath panels for the interior, also bonded to the PVC.  I should mention that I'm extending the upper deck back 4 feet and plan on using 1 1/2x3 1/2 aluminum stock for rear supports, as I just don't trust foam walls and really don't want the walls I do use to de-laminate from overstress from the upper deck.  In other words, I'm mounting the upper deck solid and independent of the walls, then filling in with the walls, putting them in C channel with a foam gasket inside the channels.  I hope this helps.
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Similar opinion and solution.

I was flabbergasted to discover that Tracker had used the laminate walls as structural elements in the support of the top deck on my PC. It was a formula for disaster, especially considering that the laminate walls that they used weren't "water rated" designs.

I installed legitimate aluminum supporting structure, then skinned the cabin.  The walls are no longer structural.
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Welcome to the Party Hut Re-builder's club. There are many re-builds on this boat in the forums and SunBlocker's build has been a guidepost for many. (And he is really helpful)

Here is my 1990 rebuild thread:
http://www.pontoonboatforum.com/1990-party-hut-rebuild_topic7976.html

And another great one I used as my guide:
http://www.pontoonboatforum.com/1995-suntracker-party-hut-rebuild_topic7768_page1.html?KW=painkiller

Looking back, I wish I had put in some additional square tubing supports inside my walls to support the roof for peace of mind. My new walls are watersafe and structural now that they have been re-built, but I limit the people on top to 4 adults or 6 kids and things have held up nicely so far. 

Please post pics of your build once you get underway.
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Thank you everyone ! Somethingtodo, we have been enjoying your thread even prior to posting my question, you sure did a lot !
 
We selected a solid PVC mold/mildew resistant board (used by Outdoor Sign companies) rather than trying to add frp panel on each side of a form board. Though only 1/2" thick, we are hoping that adding 180' of 1/8" thick aluminum channel and aluminum solid angle on all corners, inside and out as well as tops and bottoms, we will have enough strength to support the deck, along of course with the two front supports.
 
Does this explanation sound any better ? 
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I also have a question about the "bed" in the rear. Does anyone have any pictures of what this looks like opened and closed ? I see where the 3 separate two foot deep "cabinets" would be and believe in front of that is two 2 person seats with armrests/drinkholders on the outside and in between. I don't understand how a bed would lie flat over the seats ??
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This is the only pic I've found that might help on the back bed question
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Thank you for the pictures !
 
What size is the mattress ? Is the board in front part of the frame and does it go to the ground ? So when open, it still does not interfere with the two seats and 3 drink holder consoles across the back ? Does the mattress/bed somehow fold and go away when "closed" ?
 
Obviously, still trying to figure out "construction" Confused


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Now planning to add 1 1/2x1 1/2 aluminum square tubing on the corners on the inside for extra strength and support.
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Anyone know what standard size gas tank for this boat is ?

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My 1990 Party Hut Factory tank is 19 gallons, which is not a lot for the old gas guzzlers and that big of a boat. I added another one on the other side recently to bring me up top 38 gallons. 

Long term, switching to a more modern motor like the Evinrude E-tec would nearly double the time on that 19 gallons I would think.

 
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Originally posted by Something2do Something2do wrote:

My 1990 Party Hut Factory tank is 19 gallons, which is not a lot for the old gas guzzlers and that big of a boat. I added another one on the other side recently to bring me up top 38 gallons. 

Long term, switching to a more modern motor like the Evinrude E-tec would nearly double the time on that 19 gallons I would think.

 

Re:  The E-Tec.  That has been my personal experience!
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Originally posted by Something2do Something2do wrote:

My 1990 Party Hut Factory tank is 19 gallons, which is not a lot for the old gas guzzlers and that big of a boat. I added another one on the other side recently to bring me up top 38 gallons. 
 
 
Can I ask the dimensions ? Since I may need to have one fabricated.


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I don't have that info. It was custom made for the boat for sure as it fits just perfectly inside my rear Horseshoe area in the back. Did your boat not have this tank installed?

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Originally posted by Something2do Something2do wrote:

I don't have that info. It was custom made for the boat for sure as it fits just perfectly inside my rear Horseshoe area in the back. Did your boat not have this tank installed?
No, not sure what happened to original tank, presently have just a plastic 6 gallon tank from seller ! LOL
 
Does yours come pretty much to the top ?
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Typically they don't come anywhere near the top so you can have an external (skin/panel mount) fill neck and connecting hose.
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The tank in The `Blocker:


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Here is a pic of my new tank in the port side horseshoe. 


and a picture of the tank out of the boat:


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Explains why your tank is 19 gallons and mine is about 40!  Wink
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Measuring below where the filler tubes enter the horseshoe, it looks like I could fit a tank that is 16" high, 19" wide and 23" front to back depth. We'll see what it costs for a local marina to fabricate one for me !
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Do you think it would be cheaper to have one fabricated than just find a poly tank that fits??
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Originally posted by SunBlocker SunBlocker wrote:

Do you think it would be cheaper to have one fabricated than just find a poly tank that fits??
 
Probably not, but a quote is someplace to start. If it's reasonable, could be a time saver than trying to find just the right size ? From your experience, is a poly tank the way to go ?
 
With the 16x19x23 measurements, this appears could hold 30 gallons. Would not a metal tank be better ? Or too heavy ?
 


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I would lean on Sunblocker for this too, but I would not want to put too much weight on just the one side unless you either add a second tank on the other side or fill the other side with something heavy too, like a bunch of big batteries. 

1 gallon of gasoline is about 6.6-7 lbs. so you are looking at around 195 pounds on the one side in addition to you, the driver. As long as your people load or other heavy items offset that most of the time, you are good to go. 


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Great Lakes Skipper (Kendors) is local to me, so I have ad the opportunity to see their inventory first-hand.  They have just about every &@%$ size tank that you can imagine... most at discount prices.  Moeller (OEM) and many others.

Personally I would start with their web site and see if I could find an appropriate match.

Nothing really wrong with aluminum tanks.... use them in racing all the time.  But I would think that an off-the-shelf poly unit would be much cheaper, unless you have a friendly TIG guy on speed-dial.
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As Something2do mentioned, varying asymmetrical ballast is a pain.  Even if you compensate by putting something heavy on the port side.... you're still "off" when you're low on gas.

Symmetrical tanks (or a center tank) is the way to go if you can.  Ideally rigged so that you draw off of both tanks at the same rate (which usually requires a bottom-tap).
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Originally posted by curtiscapk curtiscapk wrote:

How about this?
 
 
 
 
Thanks, I actually looked at this one !  A little concerned about the fit, it shows Dimensions: 21" L x 19" D x 15 1/4" H (+4 for fittings). I re-measured the horseshoe and feel most comfortable with limiting the depth to 15.5" and the height to 14".
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