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Installed my LED anchor light from PS!
 
 
Added Blue LED lights to rear and front deck, also from PS!
 
 
 
Put my Ooogah horn in place!
 
 
Installed rubber grommets in holes I ran wire through!
 
 
Installed my Steering cable from PS...That was a scary hole to cut...LOL...It was so tight I almost had to cut another hole...Took me a little while to get to work right!
 
 
 
Started trying to figure out where I want to mount battery boxes from EZACDC!
 
 
Met my daughters in town at our local sign shop and we designed these decals.....snow capped CHILLIN' THE MOST! and WELCOME ABOARD with a anchor....I think they turned out pretty cool! $60
 
 
 
I layed my PS wiring harness out....this thing is great and IMO probaly saves you money in the long run...Hopefully tonight I will actually get some stuff wired up!!
 
 
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Alrighty....Found this boot for my throttle/linkage/tilt & trim and ignition at auto parts store for $10...put my panel and radio in place and started running wiring for speakers, led lights etc...I bought 8 blue led lights from PS, 6 were some kind of knock off brand, but the last 2 they sent me were Attwood, IMO these Attwood led lights are better quality than the others...But since I only have 2 of them, I'm going to use the two on the front deck in case the blue is different...Pouring rain this morning, I'm sitting here thinking if I can get most of the pontoon in the garage, so I don't have a wasted day!! Good news our local lake West Point is over full pool for the first time in probaly 10 years!
 
 
 
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Looking awsome fatdaddy. you are getting close now but then it's all the little stuff that takes up alot of the time. Can't wait to see it in the water. I am glad to hear about the PS wire harness because thats what I have. I couldn't buy the wire localy for as cheap as I bought the whole wire harness from them.
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Leaving Wendsday to go to north Georgia for a camping trip... I don't know how much I can get done between now and then....Hope everyone has a great Memorial Day and please buy a vet a cold beer!
Boy it took a while but I put in a new neutral safety switch and regreased my controls!! If you need your controls worked on now is the time to bring them to me...LOL... what a puzzle!
 
 
Heres there the completed controls!!
 
 
The next 3 or 4 photos are my LED lights....2 on front deck, 2 on console, 1 on 3 bench seats and 1 right above by battery switch from EZACDC....I like the 2 Attwood LED's the best, color and quality!
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Looks great. I bought these for under my seats. They are white but I wish I would have went with blue as I think the white may be too bright. I guess I could always throw a coat of blue paint on them. I like them because they are rigid and will be easy to mount.



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Ok guys got the controls mounted....installed a new T/T switch in my panel...installed my new boot...put in my vinyl/carpet threshold....installed a 2 battery bank with switch for radio/amp and ran 6 guage wire to helm with terminal blocks...Got everything together and thought I am just going to turn her over a few times and nothing happens...My starter has gone out...My buddy took it off and his friend works at a rebuild shop. should have in back in next day or two...I'd guess the starter was orginal and it was time for a rebuild...Better now in driveway, than on the lake, right?...BOAT=BREAK OUT ANOTHER THOUSAND!!....Well you probaly will not hear from me for at least a week, as we are going camping in the North Georgia Mountains later this week....I wanted to be done by now, but that is not happening....everybody have a great Memorial day weekend!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Looking good. Your control set up is similar to what mine will look like with the throttle/shifter cables entering the floor. Thanks for the picture of the battery set up also. You are getting real close. Have a good time camping. Maybe by then I will actualy have something new done to my boat LOLCry
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Big thanks bstomper...and yes I want to see you make some progress over the next week!
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Ok guys heading camping this AM...The starter was bad and believe it or not all orignal...$75 bucks for a rebuild...amazing that a starter could last for 25 years...Of course they don't build like they use to...LOL...I doubt we will discussing how to work on a 2013 motor, 25 years from now because there will probaly not be any around...I am going to try and get back to work on boat Tues or Wend!Star
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Well while I was camping...some buddies of mine got the newly rebuilt starter on and it works like a champ...They also starting polishing toons and almost have one complete...I hope to get my butt back out there today and get started on it again!
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Got all the seats screwed and bolted down last night...got the controls hooked up to motor and finally ran the motor for about 10 or 15 minutes on the rabbit ears....sounds like I may have 1 carb that is loading up just a hair, my guess is that the float level is not set correctly, but this is an easy fix...my buddy jason came by last night and ran the high speed buffer for awhile and we are close to having one toon almost polished....my armrests are a little to flemisy for my taste, how did you guys bolt the armrest to seat base? I bolted them to the floor, I am thinking just bolt them to seat base with short bolts and big washers. And yes I did seat at helm while motor was running and pretended I was driving, but at least I did not have to make motor sounds this time....LOL
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Reach in side the arm rest, you can feel the frame or "ribs" used to construct them.  Simply drill through your seat base and through one or 2 of the ribs and bolt together.  I have actually done this on the seat bases as well before and it really tightens up every thing.
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Thanks for that PS guy...that is kinda what I was thinking....I just was not sure the plastic ribs would support that!
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Not too much to report today...installed new trailer lights and wiring...got 6 speakers wired up and cleaned all the wiring up in my bench seats....tighten my prop, as it was a little to loose!
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My buddy Jason came by last night and worked on polshing the toons some more....you can really see the difference in the rear view IMO!
 
 
 
 
I got the sundeck completely finished!
 
 
Installed my homemade washdown system...used what we call pex pipe as it is very flexible, started with 3/4 then necked it down to 1/2 as I am trying to build a little pressure, put hose bib under my front left bench seat and sent a line to bow with a valve for washing hands and feet!
 
 
 
 
Ok  guys I am down to: finish polishing toons, wire up amp and radio and decals! Does anybody know should I power the radio off the amp? the diagram they sent is worthless!
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Originally posted by fatdaddy fatdaddy wrote:

Does anybody know should I power the radio off the amp? the diagram they sent is worthless!


nope, the simplest pic i can find (though you will have to run the amp ground to the battery as well):




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Looking good fatdaddy. Things are almost wrapped up and you will be on the water in no time. Looking forward to seeing the completed project. Sorry I can't help you with the stereo thing.

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Warning do not try and polish your pontoons it turns you into a democrat....LOL....very close to finishing the polish process...IMO it is not worth it, but for at least one weekend we will have the shinest rims on the lake...finally got the radio working and we had our first party, the amp gets pretty hot so I have some 1/2 alum and I am going to try and make some sort of heat sink to help disapate some of heat!!
 
 
 
 
 
My daughter doing her yoga on the new sundeck...LOL!
 
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Alrighty guys I am getting very close to wrapping this project up....Thought I would have an easy day of putting on decals...LOL... we tryed all different types of layouts....its tougher than you may think....overall pretty happy with the results.....leaving next thursday for a camping trip to the lake, so we are going to be right down to the wire....I would like to install a lowrance hds with gps in dash and re-tighten all bolts, basically make sure everything is ready to go! Below are the decal photos, its very difficult to make one side look like the other!
 
 
 
 
 
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Looks absolutely beautiful. Great job fatdaddy
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Thanks guys!
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Installed the Lowrance HDS5 last night...I did the in the dash mount as it should make it harder to steal...LOL....Stocked the boat with anchors, life jackets etc...cleaned the seats and ran the shop vac...I think she is ready for her first trip (knock on wood)!
 
 
 
 
 
It's hard to believe we have come this far...Big thanks to Jason, Chad and PawPaw for all their help!
 
 
 
 
Thanks to all the forum members for your help over the past couple of months, you guys have really helped me stay on track...now the big question is how much is she worth? Maybe $7,000 or $8000...I just finished this one and already want to start another one...LOL...What an idiot, I am......See you guys at the lake!! I wll post some on the water pictures when we get back!
 
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Great job and well done. Looking at your completed boat has really got me itching to get at mine @!#$*&&^%$.........One more trip out of town tomorrow for 3 days #$&^%$#&....and I will have 3 days to get some work done. Seeing your handrail on the boat is starting to make me lean towards painting mine. It would be much easier to just body fill the holes and dents and paint instead of welding, grinding and buffing/polishing, and it looks better also. I like the depthfinder mounted indash. I just received my depthfinder yesterday in the mail and will be doing the same thing. Once again great job now get out there and drink some beer on the lake instead of in dry dock. LOL
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if your looking to sell it, i personally would put 9900 on it and see what kind of bites you get. Perhaps print out copies of the rebuild on this site to help you sell it.. that way the buyer has an idea of the work you put into it. My goal is to find one of those suntracker party huts and rebuild it. bathroom, sink, fridge... i'm going to have one of those some day.

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finally got the radio working and we had our first party, the amp gets pretty hot so I have some 1/2 alum and I am going to try and make some sort of heat sink to help disapate some of heat!!


Fatdaddy, I went back to the kit you bought and here is the problem.

amp is rated 4chs X 100 Watts RMS at 4 Ohms
Speaker are Impedance: 4 Ohms

This would all be fine if you were only running 4 speakers But since your kit came with 8 speakers I'm guessing you have 2 speakers to each channel of your amp. If so how did you wire them?
If you put both positives and both negative from both speakers you are putting your amp into a 2ohm load and its overdriving the amp.....All the heat your talking about.

There is a cure and its a easy one.
Take the positive of speaker #1 hook it to positive of CH1 on your amp.
Take the negative of speaker #1 and hook it to positive of speaker #2
Take negative of speaker #2 and hook it into negative of CH1 on amp

do this to all four channels of your amp...you don't have to rewire the boat just hook the wires together by the amp coming from each speaker.

This will make the amp feel a 8ohm load at each channel which will not work your amp so hard causing premature burn out.

The real problem is the people who sold you your equipment should have sold it with 8ohm speakers all pos and all negs to each channel would have your amp in a 4ohm load and would have been perfect......

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Makes total sense largebarge...yes I was not sure how to wire...I will rewire it your way and see if that helps, I did think about wiring it that way, but thought it might weaken the amps to each speaker...but with these cheap speakers, I really don't think it would hurt the sound...The sound quality is actually pretty good with really good bass and that is with the amp volume barely on! I am not sure if I will stay with these speakers or amp, as the quality is minimal! I love the sony radio!
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I bought the same Sony head unit..... As you I love it!
Your right it will weaken your amp sort of being in a 8ohm load but like you said if you have volume to spear than its not a problem....Turn the gain all the way down on your amp then turn the Sony volume up to 40 I think 50 is max....then turn up gain on amp unit its as loud as it can be without blaring the speakers.....just a lazy way of setting it up to keep amp from clipping all the time. there is another way but its a lot of math and the use of a muti-meter...... I truly hopes this helps you out.

BTY get the Rockfords if ya can when your ready. I had to laugh memorial weekend when a kid in a powerboat kept trying to play his music loud.....my wife just went up to the toon and cranked it.... it didn't take long he shut his crud off.....
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Thanks for the info largebarge...will rewire ASAP....love the story about the boy in the powerboat....nothing better than putting a young man in his place, as he does not know that at one time we were cool too...but now we have money, which means we can buy cool...LOL
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Well don't it figure...big rain sysytem coming in off Gulf is sure to hit us this PM at the campground....I really don't care as I am dying to get this thing in the water! I will be the idiot running around West Point Lake in the rain!
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