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Hello I have been looking in here on and off for some time while sorting out my boat, but my first time posting. I bought a older pontoon with the intentions of setting it up for night fishing. It has went well and now that its gotten cold and I have pulled it off of the lake its time to finish up the rest of the rebuild. This summers list was to get it functional and get some fishing in and I did that included a full rewire, new gages, disconnest switch and a motor change, and a trailer rewire and new tires. When I bought it was a empty deck except for the console that was junk and when it was pulled off of the marina, I did a deck expansion moved the fence all the way up. Right now its out having a custom cover made. After the first I will be starting in on the deck. First thing is a new back seat. Presently looking at the wise seats with plastic frames lighter than wood and should stand up better to mold that's the next step. This is the just the start next is a custom rod box that will hold 8 foot rods and live well and the front 8 feet of the boat will be kept clear for a 8 x 8 pop up tent. Will add pictures when the cover is done its made from Sunbrella and thier will be other pictures.



Edited by MH Hawker - 02/08/2012 at 2:49am
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This is my earlest picture at the time I started, at first my main concern was to get in some fishing I hadnt ben able to fish or do much of any thing for about 3 years my eye sight had gone bad due to catracts, and after my second lens implant I was able to do things again and i really wanted to get back out side and wet a line, so this is how the boat looked when it was lake ready.
 
 
just plywood boxes for storage but  I had made a new console, rewired, all new gages, fishfinder with water tempture/speed probe, bimni top, and had the rod racks, bait light and black light all up and working.
 
 
 
This is what i have in mind for the finished floor plan
 
 
 
new console and captins chair
 
 
and after the front fence move all the way up front to make it easer to handle fish.
 
 
 
 
 


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new dock cover
 
 
old plywood seating
 
 
first rod box
 
 
 new seats installed
 
 
***fixed text alignment and photo alignment at the end of post so pics would align***


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My next steps are to install a rod box and a live well. I sent the boxes off to have them upholstery and got them back a few days ago but the weather has been a bit to cold and rainy to work out side but the tank is ready to install and the timer came in today. Its a stainless tank I made several years ago

 

inside the tank
 
the aeritaor and fill lines


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And this may interst those who fish, I mainly night fish with a black light.I have ben using this style of rod rack for around 15 years it slips in or out of some PCV pipe depending on what you want to do that day and each rack holds 4 rods and the black light goes on a pvc pole clamped on the gate.
 
its a bit hard to see but just under the rack is also a hooded bait light
 
 
black light set up
 
 
 
 
 
and thats the way to kick back and fish
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Never gave it much thought before, generally just used the black light for tying lines in the dark. But that was years ago. Now that I picked up 2 of them with a recent boat purchase, you've given me another idea for watching my lines. Course I don't have a front gate on my toon because of the trolling motor being there.
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Once you use it you wont ever go back, you can see ever bump and twitch of the lines,  and the lines look like tow ropes. You can actualy see the lines better at night than you can in full day. And no bugs. Your catch size will get bigger and more of them.
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how much did the new cover cost ya?
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New custom cover in KC will cost you $36/ft 20' boat will cost $720
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It was a bit steep,1200.00. But it is a custom made one from sumbrella, and I had several non standard things done, the poles are set to a 48 inch clearance to stop any water from pooling, 36 is the normal and water pools on them and you have to put stuff under them to stop it. And I had snaps installed ever 6 inches instead of 12 so it will support snow weight with out ripping out snaps, This is a year round storage not just a summer dock cover and it was made to fit around the Bimini mounts that are also non standard, and in this area I only have 2 company's that will do that sort of work so its a case of pay for it or not have it done. On the plus side the cover will last at least 10 years of constant exposure to sun, rain, and snow and its a lot less hassle to put on and off and a good cover is just plain so much easer to use so it will get used more often. My boat is kept on a slip most of the year and keeping a cover on it will keep your wood deck, furniture, carpet in great shape for many years, so it really dose come down to a case of pay now or later.
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I couldnt help my self all this sitting around waiting on the weather to get better so I can finish. I raided my wifes paypal account and bouth a 180.00 stainless steel steering wheel for 70.00 on flea bay
 
 
 
 
 
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Sweet , that's a good looking wheel. I love the steering knob on it!
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looks almost like the one I got and sold/give away to VaGent, it'll be a nice addition to the rebuild. Clap
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Originally posted by Lando Lando wrote:

New custom cover in KC will cost you $36/ft 20' boat will cost $720


hmmmm, where at? i'll be needing one after i get the furniture on (feel free to pm so as to not derail/threadjack)




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It was a bit steep,1200.00. But it is a custom made one from sunbrella, and I had several non standard things done, the poles are set to a 48 inch clearance to stop any water from pooling, 36 is the normal and water pools on them and you have to put stuff under them to stop it. And I had snaps installed ever 6 inches instead of 12 so it will support snow weight with out ripping out snaps, This is a year round storage not just a summer dock cover and it was made to fit around the Bimini mounts that are also non standard, and in this area I only have 2 company's that will do that sort of work so its a case of pay for it or not have it done. On the plus side the cover will last at least 10 years of constant exposure to sun, rain, and snow and its a lot less hassle to put on and off and a good cover is just plain so much easer to use so it will get used more often. My boat is kept on a slip most of the year and keeping a cover on it will keep your wood deck, furniture, carpet in great shape for many years, so it really dose come down to a case of pay now or later.


ah, so the sunbrella name automatically escalates the price. mine will also be an all year cover at least for now. i'd like to get a wet slip at the lake again but that may be a few years down the road


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I really dont know how much it runs the price up but the sumbrella stuff is supposed be the best and most durable and it is more expensive per yard. In my case it did add 200 to the price for the modifications I asked for and having him make it from sumbrella. The prices are very regional on having one made. I am here in WV and their simply only 2 shops that will make one with in a 100 mile range and both of them charge around the same price. And yes I am sure I paid more to have one made here but I got what I wanted and over time I believe it will be a lot easer to use. I looked at a lot of different covers on the boats here on the marina and listened to their owners talk about what problems they have had and the main ones are rain pooling and snow ripping out snaps. Most of them have to place chairs or other stuff under their covers to prop up areas to keep rain from pooling on their covers and it is a hassle that can be avoided simply by having it made taller 36 is the standard height from what I have seen to 48 and lol you will get drenched when trying to take a cover off that had rain pooled on it so it takes more yards of fabric to make one and rain will also rip out snaps. And I had snaps installed ever 6 inches instead of the standard 12 to spread the strain of rain and snow loads but it also doubled the labor cost of having them installed like that. To me its sort of the point of having a custom cover made to make it easer and better and so far it has worked just like I wanted all winter i haven't had to touch it, no rain pooling no extra propping it up and no damage and no hassle. Their are things to skimp on and cut costs but a cover isnt one of them. Think of a cover like a garage do you want your boat in one thats leaking or the roof will fall in on it and rain comes in on rurining your furnature carpet and over time it is what rots the deck wood or causes mold on everthing that you have to spend hours cleaning or one thats dry and protects your boat and stuff and ready to go when you are.

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Very good synopsis - I like it Thumbs Up. That's the problem with tarps I buy, not enough grommets reinforced to distribute the stresses.
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I used the adjustable posts with my pontoon cover and encountered the same problem -- not enough hi enough. After some heavy rain it overwhelmed the cover, bent the poles, broke the windshied, and ripped the cover. With the new cover I made homemade poles that stood up around 48 inches like you describe. After that it looked a like a tall house but it always drained the water like it should.  Excellent choice on design!
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Finley caught a good day to work outside on the boat after 12 days of rain and snow and was able to finish up the rod box install. It is also for seating when haulling the grand kids around.

 

the old rod box I made last summer to get by with

 

 

the new one before it was sent off to the upholsterer shop it has 2 sections one for rods and another for fold up camping chairs.

 

 new box butted up against the plastic seat box with the cut out opening

inside shot of rod clearances the gray area is inside of the plastic seat box

 

 

plastic seat box with the partitions



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ahhh yaaah, I like it Clap
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Yea I am trying to work it all in. It will be 90 % fishing but with 8 grand kids thier will be a lot of riding and swimming and buring hot dogs. Ran into a space problem in the seat box and had to rework the battery and disconnect switch. I knew that was just to easy.Censored
 
 
that should help you never have enough storage space
 
 
I dont think I will have to be in the battery box often. lol I sure hope not.


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Got in the new steering wheel today to , but wrong size jam nut. got it on order Confused and had a bit of a wild thought I happen to have 2 of the purple under car lighting tubes like the kids are putting on cars I am thinking that would look killer on a pontoon what do you all think, dont know how water resistant they are and may not last long but its just a thought. mmm and thinking on it I wonder if thier black lights

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Had another beautiful day today it hit 55 again got the live well installed today it went along very well. I had all ready mounted the fill pump, fish finder transducer, speed/water temp probe and the wiring and hose and had that ran up to the approximate area. I went with a separate fill and aerator because I often make long runs up the lake and don't want to lose bait and if the water in the tank gets warm I can change it out any time.

 

 

here is where it will be sitting

 

the plumbing

 

 

wiring in the fill pump and the aerator timer, I went with a timer to save battery power found a nice unit with a 30 second fixed on time with a 1 to 7 minute off time

 

 

The fill pump, speed/water temp probe and the transducer. I don't have a bracket welded on the back of my logs so I made a bracket to mount ever thing on the motor pod I am using a 9.9 so it should work fine.

 

Ever thing installed and I just had to test just to make sure the timer is working right. The lid for the box is back at the upholstery shop the guy did it backwards

and due to another 57 degree day I may be forced to drop it in and do a shake down run Beer


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I have been sort of busy using the boat since I was able to get it on the slip for the season. The fishing has been real good lol but I got around to taking the finished up pictures.
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I made a spring loaded pivot point so I could fold it down out of the way to put the cover on.
 
 
when putting in the new seats i left a 6 inch gap between the seat back and the fence to store the dock cover
 
 
 


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And the last 5.
 
drivers shelf , got to have a place to put stuff made from PVC trim board
 
front shelves
 
 
new grill with a fold up table hung in brackets to save space
 
 
swim lader and throw cussion also bracket mounted
 
 
the finished up live well
 
 


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So you're saying it's done for the most part (always little stuff I know) Wink
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How are the seats which are away from the rail for the cover?  Are they springy backed or stay rigid?  I've heard they should be up against the railing?  Just curious.  Thumbs Up
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Well lolol its never done , snickers but its done for the season. Since I have had it on the slip , I had a starter problerm right off the bat, then the shift shaft was out of adjustment and that took 3 days to sort out and over the summer I will be finishing up the trailer, and then come fall is painting the fence and polishing the logs. lolol dose it ever stop.

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So far the seats are rigid in fact that has become the favorite place to sit. That may be due to how their made I went with the ABS boxes and seats insted of the wood frames and the seat backs bolt onto them so its all one piece.

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