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Have any of you considered using two part polyurethene paint such as this? Several friends used this topside paint on their sailboats and were very pleased with the results. It looked great and is apparently long lasting in the sun. It is expensive but the results were impressive. Most of them applied it with a roller and then "tipped" it out lightly with a brush and it smoothed out to a very level and glossy finish as it cured. It"s been awhile since I was around it but you have to be careful when you use it as it can set up quickly as I recall. There are a lot of detailed instructions online if anyone wants to consider using it.
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I am very happy with the spot I tested. I was anxious to see how it look so I just brush some on after I wiped the aluminum down with water. I know that isn"t how you are supposed to do it but was in a hurry. It seems very hard and it is soooo shiny.  I just ordered this console and I have a few questions to anyone who has used it.

I ordered the glovebox and was wondering if ya"ll think there is enough room for the glove box and stereo on the flat side that faces the driver?  If it doesn"t I can send it back.  Also, will most steering systems fit inside these consoles?

 

 

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Hey guys, sorry for the delay in posting. Got to a point where all i was
doing was acid washing the waterline off the logs. I finished that this
evening and also drilled my holes in the crossmembers for the wiring
harness to go through. The harness i got from PS is configured for
the horn to go up front. Where do i mount it? I have always seen
them mounted on the side of the console. I am going to run the
wires tomorrow then install the deck. I might even put the carpet
down if i have enough time. I"ll try to post some pics when I"m done
cleaning up.
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The one from EZACDC has it both ways, front or the console (or both). I think if you wanted to, you could always cut the wire and just splice it back on where you need it (cut a length out of it and retie everything). I haven"t seen the harness from PontoonStuff so I haven"t see how its wired up. According to the PDF of it, the orange/white white is your horn wire on the starboard 6 way connector, so you could always cut it back say 6 inches (so if you want to rewire it you can). Either that or splice into it with a good connector so you could have it either up front, in the console or both.

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My horn is mounted under the console, but the sound is somewhat muffled under there. I think up front would be a good idea, if it were protected enough from the elements, etc. That is a good question, where to others mount their horn? I"m curious too.
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Mines under the console too. I was thinking the same thing about having it at the front of the boat. Just have to figure out where and how to mount it. I think I could put a flush mount with a grill on the front panel down low if it was waterproof...
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Mine is on the side of the console, its a trumpet type but puny blast that sounds more like somebody passing gas rather than alerting a boater 100ft away , got a new air type horn that should sound better that"ll be mounted on the new console. Even though of mounting those flush mount horns up front for an add on effect (since my wiring allows that).
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Mine sounds like the Road Runner........Meep Meep...
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My older horn was in the old console with a grill exposing the sound output.  I decided not to install in my new deluxe PS console and mounted it exposed just under the deck up front.  Now it puts out a good warning sound and is not muffled.  No prob with a center lift non bunk trailer.  No probs so far.  I like it much better up there as well as not cutting another potential leak in the console.

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Here are some updated pics.

First the BARE METAL!




This is what straight Muratic Acid will do to the thick waterline on the logs!






I couldn"t believe it. I hope I didn"t harm the aluminum because I washed both the logs like this.

Here is what my wiring looks like.





1" Grommets were $1.59/ea at the local hardware store. The waterhose that my chocolate lab chewed up was needing a new wet home. 


AND VOILA! New deck and pretty good looking logs. I am going to try and find someone to help me put the carpet on tomorrow. We don"t have rain in our forecast for 10 days so I figured it would be a great time to lay the carpet and not worry about rain killing my glue.






My console, gate hardware, and glove box came yesterday from PS.  I am very nervous about cutting holes in the console though. I am going to pretend like I don"t have to cut any holes for as long as I have to!
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the logs will shine great now that you got the crud off.   It"ll turn white initially then it"ll turn a few shades over the next few days. It"ll be dull, but it"ll be clean.
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Just measure, think, measure, think and measure again before cutting and you"ll be fine. The logs came out nice. Strong chemicals sure makes short work of it. Might want to put some split loom cover on those wires if you still get to them..
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I didn"t scrub at all on the logs! I did however wear a respirator and thick chemical resistant gloves!  The sharkhide metal protectant goes on tomorrow. Good idea on the split-loom. I just figured with the edge caps on nothing would be able to get to them. Better safe than sorry. The hole saw I used to cut into the crossmembers left really sharp edges. I knew if I didn"t atleast put something around the wires they would be cut the minute I ran them!
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Originally posted by mfwyatt mfwyatt wrote:

The hole saw I used to cut into the crossmembers left really sharp edges. I knew if I didn"t at least put something around the wires they would be cut the minute I ran them!

That"s the truth. I like the grommet/hose setup. The extra protection never hurts..

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Still haven"t found anyone to help me put the carpet on. I have a buddy coming over tomorrow night to help me do it.  I was so impatient that I cleaned one of the gates up really good and painted the outside panel! If this Rustoleum Marine paint holds up like I think, you all need to jump on it. It has a brilliant shine and once the paint cures it is impossible to scratch it with finger nails. I just hope the color holds up because it is beautiful! The paint can says it has a UV protectant so maybe it will be good. This is the gate that goes out to the front deck. Once I get a second coat on it, I am going to paint a white stripe in the middle to make a dive flag.



Let me know what ya"ll think. The inside panel is going to be a gloss bright white. I can not believe how good this paint covers. I honestly feel like I will get the whole boat done with 2 quarts of each color.
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Not crazy about red on a boat, but love the info and it looks good and good idea on the white strip (unique)
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Where did you come across the Rustoleum marine paint? Don"t remember hearing about it before. Does it come in spray cans or are you using a sprayer or a brush? It looks like it goes on well with a nice finish..
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I picked up the paint at Lowes. It comes in quart cans and is a little pricey. I paid $11 a quart. I am brushing it on. When I first apply the paint it looks like stuff because of the brush marks but when it dries, it appears to be sprayed professionally. (except where I got to thick of a coat, then it runs a bit.) And I kinda wanted to do a dark blue or even a slate gray but bought the red paint because I thought it would look better. They only had red and a light blue color at the time. Went back to lowes yesterday. They had the slate gray.........oh well.
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I gotta go check Lowes out and see for myself
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I"m considering going and getting the gray.
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That "diver down" flag is a great idea. Sometimes red has its place.
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Very good, gotta see if I can get Navy Blue.
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They have navy blue at my lowes. If you cant find it, let me know
because lowes said they can special order it at no extra cost. Ill get
you the UPC code off the can so they can reference it.

On another note. Im outside working on the carpet right now. Havent
put any glue down because no matter which way I pull and tug on
the carpet, I can"t get the wrinkles out. After I lay the glue and then
put the carpet on, will rolling it with a heavy object fix it?
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Yes, the heavy roller is a must in my opinion as it evenly spreads the glue and lays the carpet flat on it filling any voids, look at scbadiver"s rebuild and mine, you should see how we did it, lay the carpet on, fold half over, trowel on the glue, lay carpet down, fold over other half, repeat process, run roller over carpet - wait the proper time to let glue dry (we had it on by afternoon and left it overnight in a warm building), on his, he left it overnight and it was good to start putting furniture on the next day. Just lay the carpet as evenly as you can, as you"ll trim off any excess with a razor.
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CARPET IS DONE! I"ll post pics tomorrow!
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Hey guys, I ended up going and getting a can of the Battleship Gray. This is the new color. The picture below wouldn"t focus because of the lighting and it

is a cell phone picture. I will take another picture tomorrow after the paint drys. I"m getting so excited about seeing this thing put back together. I"m

broke now but at least I have something to keep me occupied until I get more money!




















Also, I forgot a step in reassembling the deck..............I totally overlooked the deck joint tape. I am using CCA Marine Plywood. Did I make a huge

mistake? Also I"m a little disappointed with being able to see the H Channels under the carpet. Do ya"ll think they will be as obvious once I get furniture

down? I couldn"t see them with the old carpet, but thats no surprise because it was about a half inch thick. Anyways, enjoy the pictures.

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Well the joint tape doesn"t have anything to do with the H channel showing through the carpet, it would go on the supports before you laid the wood down. Now if the H channel is showing, then it generally means you didn"t the right thickness of wood and then you"d router the ends that go into the H channel, so it would have a totally flat surface. Some guys take the opportunity to replace the H channel supports with Z or C channel supports. You"re gonna have to do some very careful furniture placement. Maybe somebody else has some better suggestions since I haven"t dealt with H channel myself.
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The H channel lends itself to showing seams, etc. As a builder I can think of two ways to solve this. One would be to get plywood that is the thickness measured from the top of the bottom H leg to the top of the top H leg. In other words the thickness of the gap between the H plus the thickness of the top H section which the carpet contacts. After obtaining this plywood you would have to route, dado or otherwise remove a section from the edge of the plywood  1/2 the width and the full depth of the top H section. This would allow the plywood to "" flush out"" with the H channell. The other solution would be to install plywood between the H channel and "" float out"" the seam using bondo, fiberglass or some sort of compound that is semi flexible and would bond to wood. Henry makes alot of compounds for this and I used them under the vinyl on my toon at the seams, voids, etc. Since all of this would have to be done prior to the carpet placement it probably wont help you but might the next person. In your pics the channels look like seams that you would get in marine vinyl, etc. I think time as you add furniture, consoles, folks, etc. you will be the only one noticing them.
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