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    Posted: 11/09/2010 at 12:13pm

Here we go. This will be my first attempt at posting pics and then keep a log going.  I purchased this boat in the Phoenix area after a trip down with my wife. She has been very supportive but we are just getting started. We are going today to get some estimates for upholstery  work so I can decide to replace it all or repair what is there. After we get home I will then be taking it off the trailer and putting it on dollies to wheel around the garage. As you can see it has a hard top. I am thinking about removing it. It is in the way when it is down and my wife likes the cloth top. Not to mention it is heavy. I would love to hear any opinions on this. I hope to keep you all in the loop. I also must say THANKS YOU for all the great advise I have gotten from the posts here.

 

Side view, news tires and boards on traler

Missing corner piece, also the other owner just covered the bad wood with a new piece. Going to remove all that.

Right side, I will start working on those boating tearms

Hope this is enough HP to get me around, 85 horse  Yamaha, Runs good

Bad carpet and wood floor, Got samples coming so my lovely wife can pick colors and design, ordered the wood from lowes yesterday will be in here in a couple of days. a little more than on line but no shipping charges saved a few $$

I would like to make this one sundack and cover the engine. Any thoughts???

That is it for now more to come.



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Are you sure the plywood ordered from Lowe"s is CCA marine plywood?  Just wondering.  When I checked with my local store they did not seem to know what I was asking.  Was quoted right at $100 per 4x8 sheet.  Is that in the same range you are buying? 
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Sundeck - 3/4 inch plywood cut to fit as a single top.  Hinged at the rear with two 12 to 18 inch hinges one on the top of the rear fence each side of the motor.  60 pound  SS gas spring , a long one, under for lifting.  Cover with your favorite material (matching carpet, marine vinyl, etc.). Good to go.

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That 85 HP Johnson looks more like a Yamaha. What am I missing here?  Not that it matters, just curious.
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Humm, yep, says Yamaha 85, don"t see no Johnson laying around that boat  As for the back part, just review the other rebuilds, its already been done and documented in various ways. One way I like is for the wood piece across the motor pod to lift up when the motor is in full tilt.
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Nice project! And also nice job in posting pics your first try. Took me a year or more to get it right 50% of the time
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Glad you all are here to keep me straight on the motor.

As far as the wood. They had to order it and it was 90 bucks a sheet. I just pick it up at the store. They seamed to understand?? 

Thanks for the advice on the back. I will also check the threads. Going to take it off the trailer tomorrow. Ran out of time yesterday. I will take more pics.

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Cool! Keep us informed, please.
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Thanks Wildcat we are good to go again. Thanks to everyone that puts in the hard work on the board.
 
I tried to take the boat off the trailer yesterday. I thought the engine hoist idea was a great one. To big of a boatCry. I got the back end up and off the trailer but had to extend the hoist and the front was too much weight. I am going to get the 4x4's and try that plan this time. I hope to work on that Tuesday. I also found a couple of broken supports under the front and will be finding someone that can repair those. A couple guys at work do some welding I hope they can hook me up so I do not need to spend big bucks. I will take pics on Tuesday and post them.
I am selling the top if anyone is interested let me know we will work out something.  
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Post it in your local craigslist since you certainly don't want to ship it and its free - just don't post your phone number, let them email you so you can scan the spammers and con artists Wink
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Looks like a fun project.
As far as the sundeck over the motor......I would hinge it so you can get to the motor from inside the boat.
Let me know how you get the boat lifted from the trailer, I'm going to be having the same issue before long. Confused
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I also ran into a rats nest of wires. I am going to clean them up. I had my friend come over who formerly wired airplanes. If he can make them fly he can make my toon Go. He likes to fish he has a vested interest in making it home.
 
 
As you can see from this picture there is a little bit of a bend in the toon from the weight learn from me and spread the load. I did not nitice till I uploaded these pictures. now I have 2 4x4s going accress and the load spread onto a 2x4 long ways
 
Will be working on it today with more pictures.
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After I noticed by error in judgment and weight distribution I placed a 2x4 over each 4x4 to spread the load. All seams good for now.
 
 

All the old rotten wood if off. I used my air chisel to get access to the screws and then used channel locks to grab the head. About 75% came out no problem the rest I will be grinding off and drilling out. NO the gas cans in the back are not full. I do feel like I have things everywhere. I meet with the upholstery guy yesterday I can start clearing some of that out today.

I did decide to order a new wiring harness. I found wires to everywhere so I thought I would start new. I do have a couple of problems. I wanted to remove the steering cable and the shifter to pass the wires up threw the new floor. I cannot get the cable out of the helm. I also cannot get the shifting box in the picture apart because of a stripped screw.  How hard is it to disconnect all these items at the motor and go backwards. It looks like it would not be too bad but look for a little help. There was also a rubber boot that was around the wires. I have not seen these on line. I am assuming they are to keep water out. Any ideas?

 

I was happy to see the transom in good shape. ClapWill start working on the toons cleaning them up today. Carpet has been shipped. Went with the 20 oz. Midnight Star from pontton stuff. I am starting to learn what everyone says boat stands for- bust out another thousand.

I will say pontoon stuff was great. I missed the 10% off before purchasing and they credited it right away. Thanks

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Steering cable removal here on page 2 http://www.pontoonstuff.com/psforum/forum_topics.asp?FID=39&title=tips-tricks-and-things-to-know we put everything you need to know there. Yes, its much easier to disconnect from the motor end in my opinion. Rubber boots are online, also on that link I published its on page 1 under rigging materials
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It has been a while sense posting anything. It has been busy at work and it is snow skiing time. Limiting the time I can spend on the project. There has been progress however. I decided not to acid the pontoons and just do the best I can. Have started to put the floor on. My friend is going to come over this week and weld the brace that needs it. After that is done will put on the last piece of weed and then carpet. I also have replaced all the wiring and have it ran. Just lying under the wood waiting to be pulled threw. Has anyone painted the stuff from pontoon stuff. I ordered a new helm and the beige color really does not go. I need to paint it or cover it. I am just not sure how paint will stick. Any ideas would be great. That’s all for now hope to have a lot more progress in the near future.

 

 

First pice of recovered furniture. He is waiting for me to give hime pieces of carpet for the bottom were you see the wood.

New wood floor with the piece to go on the front laying there. we placed the side rail on there to see how it is going to lay

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Originally posted by lvfrff1035 lvfrff1035 wrote:

After that is done will put on the last piece of weed and then carpet.

. Umm might be better if you lay off that weed LOL - yeah, we know you meant wood (we think) LOL

Originally posted by lvfrff1035 lvfrff1035 wrote:

I ordered a new helm and the beige color really does not go. I need to paint it or cover it. I am just not sure how paint will stick. Any ideas would be great.
 
Plastic Paint - you'll need to lightly sand so the paint will adher better, be sure to get the paint with UV blocker for marine use. Others might have a specific brand that worked good for them. I had painted mine (one scbadiver put on the console) but the paint ended up chipping off. Could have used a type of etching primer first I think.
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Might cost a few bucks, but an auto body shop could paint that up real nice and it would last. The problem with those spray cans is that unless you hit it with several coats of clearcoat (and sometimes even if you do), it's gonna chip pretty easily. Maybe one of the epoxy sprays might be better, but I've never tried them.
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Thanks for all the advice, I have a couple of friends that do body work i will talk to them and see what they saySmile
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I have had tremendous luck with the Kylon Fusion paints for plastic. I've used it to paint acylic that goes inside a saltwarer aquarium and it has stayed on. You can usually just wipe it, quickly, with paint thinner, and I do mean quick wipe only with a damp cloth so it doesn't deform what you're painting and then spray it per the directions on the can. I haven't had any chip off anything I've used it on yet. It will stick to AZEK too if you wipe it first.
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Great Thanks for the help.Clap
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It has been a while but have been busy working on it when I have time. We have the floor on it and the front welded. It came out square. Thanks for all the advice to check for square we had to make some adjustments along the way. It came out good however.
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Here we are after the carpet is laid. It am very happy with how it looks and the color.It was ghard to decide from a 1 inch square. The only thing is I wish I had laid it out the night before to allow it to lay flat. It was a little chilly outside and I wanted to keep the glue and carpet inside overnight. It was a nice warm day which was nice of god to give us. The spots that look like bubbles are in the nap not bad spots. they look good now after the glue set and I vaccumed the carpet.
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Here is the seats that I have back. They came out great as well. They are not screwed down just sitting there.
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That carpet should have laid flat if you used a heavy roller to make it mesh into the glue. Looks good though.
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The guages are ready to go in the helm and we built a sun deck for the back. it will be 2 feet by 8 feet to lay out on. Put hinges on the back for access and cut a panel in the middle for the motor to tilt if need be.
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Thanks for the kind words. It did lay flat it just does not look like it in the photo. I used a floor roller it worked well. Cost 12 dollars at home depot for all day.  
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Hey now, you're making a mess on the new carpet Wink but I guess you call that progress until you vacuum it up
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Well we are close to the end. Hoping to be on the lake this weekend. I want to thank all the people who gave me help directly and the people who posted things that I was able to tap into to. The last of the upholstery will be done tomorrow. New top and cover and rear sun deck. I have the helm installed and all wires run. XM satellite radio and new am/fm/cd player. The fish finder(hope it finds some) as well as all the gauges and new tilt wheel. New driving lights and all LED navigation lights from pontoon stuff. I also put some LED light under the seats to light up the floor at night with very little draw. 3 batteries. 2 wired parallel and one on its own to make sure I get home. Started the engine when hooked up to water. It ran great. Checked the lower end oil and everything else I can think of. I did need to order a couple of Anodes they are on their way. I hope I have thought of everything and after 6 months ready to drive away.

A couple wires to clean up and some vacumming to do but this is a pic of the lower half of the helm

Top of helm all guages workClap Swithces easy to install and tilt steering wheel

A general look at the boat. Happy with the colors. put in the cup holders today. Tomorrow they will finish the sun deck

front seat all done 

New LED running light and new driving lights

The boat is almost ready to go to the lake. Here we come Lake Mead. THANKS AGAIN FOR EVERYONES HELPClapStar 

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