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Now I see why its necessary to have bunks supporting that 3rd toon. That's a pretty wicked looking crack around the welds but glad it was a good temporary fix.  Looks like your weather was a LOT better than mine.
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Sorry bout the cracks, but I'm sure your buddy will fix it even better than it was....when you had your boat loaded down was it able to plain fully, I figured it did since you got 22mph but still curious? When I do my 3rd log and strakes I'll use my 112hp for a bit until I can sell it and upgrade to a big merc, but I'm not sure if the 112 will push my boat onto plain.
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Sorry bout the cracks, but I'm sure your buddy will fix it even better than it was....when you had your boat loaded down was it able to plain fully, I figured it did since you got 22mph but still curious? When I do my 3rd log and strakes I'll use my 112hp for a bit until I can sell it and upgrade to a big merc, but I'm not sure if the 112 will push my boat onto plain.
 
   From what I can tell I was on plane. I know I could get more speed even with the same load just by going up to a 13" prop. I'm not going to bother with a change just yet. I had the boat cruising across 2' chop and it just chugged along like nothing. As far as your boat goes I don't think you'll have any problems with the 112 pushing it. You'll hear alot of talk about a third log slowing you down but from my personal experience that is not the case. Just by adding a log you are technically adding drag but remember your also getting the rest of your toon to sit higher on the water. The higher you sit the less water you plow making it much easier to get your boat on plane. There are not many 3 log boats that have gone from a 50 h.p. to a 115 h.p. back to a 50 then to a 90 all on the same boat ! After having to mount the 50 a second time I finally started playing with props. With a 3 log set up on your boat and the correct prop on your boat you'll be fine. I'm not saying it will be a water sports tow boat but it will get it around better than you think. The best part is you know your motor history and  with another log you'll probably use less fuel depending on driving habbits.
 
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Good info Shaun thanks.
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Great job on the rebuild!! I'm in the process of restoring one myself. Ih ave a question, where/how did you mount your trim/tilt motor? I got my new seats and mounts today. My pump is to tall to fit in the seat box. Did you mount yours upright or sideways? I really dont want to drill another 4 inch hole in the floor if i dont have to. 
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   My trim motors and pumps have all been all in one units. When I had the mercury motors on I used an after market cmc trim unit. Now that I have the yamaha 90 on the boat it has the factory trim. I guessing you have an older motor with the remote hydrolic unit for the trim. I am not sure if you can change the mount position on those or not. The pump needs to be able to get oil properly. A good place to get that answer would be over at "iboats.com". Search or ask your the question about your trim pump mounting  and you'll get the answer you need ! Good luck with your build and post some pics of your project !
 
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Thanks for the info Shaun, Also where did you get your aluminum siding you used? I'm looking to replace mine with the flat panel style as well. Though i'd like to get some already colored that isn't ribbed aluminum.
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It is the replacement roll of aluminum that pontoonstuff sells. To color it I used vinyl rather than paint. If you look back in the rebuild I showed how I applied the vinyl. It's way faster than painting and easy to do.
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Thanks Shaun, i ordered the roll of burgundy today. Did you have any trouble getting it around the corners? They mentioned that the .030 gauge is harder to work with verses the .020 gauge of the standard white paneling. Btw your boat looks great! 
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  No problems bending, it goes around corners just fine. The thicker the better becasue as you probably know from your old pannels they can dent and ding easily. Cutting is easy to. I used a sharp utility knife and a straight edge to score the sheeting and then flex it on that line and it will snap nice and clean. Kind like how you cut a sheet of drywall.
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Cool, thanks for the heads up! As i'm sure you figured out quickly. This turns into way more work and money than any of us planned on spending. Especially after going to the boat show in Cincinnati this past weekend. That was a bad idea! Lol
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I've read this post several times.  Question I have is what Rustoleum paint did you use below the water line?   Some or most of the Rustoleum marine paint I've checked on says above the waterline. I'd like to be sure what you used.  Thanks.
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   Yup it was above the waterline paint with enamal hardner added. My boat is a trailer boat that never spends more than 4 days (the most so far) in the water. Guys paint fiberglass boats with regular rustoleum all the time and it works. Well I should say I am in fresh water so maybe that helps alot. I did several test pannels which I have mentioned in a few posts and the paint worked great. One was in salt brine(used in my deicing process) , out in the cold sub zero weather it flexes, and regular water. I left these pannels for the entire winter before I ever considered this paint for my project. Oh and the tests do not have the harder in the paint. Prep is everything with any coating. There is no such thing as a majical primer that just makes it work. If you prep it right it will last. If you look back in my rebuild I did a spot on the inside of my log with rattle can rustoleum paint and primer and it worked great. It was a big decision to put all that paint on the boat. I didn't want it to fail and have a cow spotted pontoon LOL
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Thanks.  They do look good.  My boat will stay in the water for most of the summer.  Don't know how well that would work.  I'll probably need to pull the boat on  a regular basis to give the  toon a cleanup.  Not sure if I'll paint or not due to the continued water immersion.  Thanks again.  Thumbs Up
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 Ok wow barley had time to use the boat yet I have also finished a few more details. I know it's been quite a while since I posted an update so here goes ! I built a custom cabinet to sit in the rear corner of my boat. It holds a trolling motor ( return to shore system) just incase I have a break down and there's no one to tow me in. Having blown up a motor it's like a little extra confidence. The new storeage area also hold a 5 gallon trash can and empty cans and bottles since we have to return them here in michigan. It is made of Ipe , jatoba, and maple finished with a oil rubbed finish. I covered the base with marine vinyl to match my seats. Here is the base and rough cut top as I was laying it out. This is made out of left over scraps in the shop.
 
 
The finished storage box on the boat.
 
 
The large hole and lid is for the trash can and the cup holder has the bottom cut out and the "empties" just fall in for easy collection. The trolling motor is laying on its side along the back of the cabinet.
 
 
I also added color changing led's under the boat. You can choose from about 16 colors and fade patterns along with the ability to dim the lights. I wanted pure white but glad I have options because they all look awsome on the painted logs !
 
 
I also added red and green corresponding led's to shine down on the nose cones under the nav. lights. I figure this will keep any confusion away from the led's shinng on the logs while under way. The picture kind of gives the idea but it looks alot better in person.
 
And now the final update I put a name on the boat. It's supposed to be good luck to name a boat so I figured what could it hurt !
 
 
I might end up with a custom ski tow bar and new aluminum welded fuel tank so stay tuned. I can't beleive it's been three years since I hit the water for the first time and I still have things I want to do to the boat !!!
 
 
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interesting rebuild,,I get so many ideas from this forum,,just need to be home more to work on mine,,I must say,,"great looking boat,,and your talented in wood flooring
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Originally posted by yadnom yadnom wrote:

interesting rebuild,,I get so many ideas from this forum,,just need to be home more to work on mine,,I must say,,"great looking boat,,and your talented in wood flooring
 
Thanks I am proud of my boat project and hope it gives you some ideas. Any questions just ask.
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I was wanting to know how your transom is working out now.  Did supporting the log while trailering the boat solve the issue?  I guess the real question is are you happy with the way you did it.  I am planning on building one (center log) very similar and just wanted to know your thoughts after some time with yours.  Is there anything you wish you had done differently?  Great job on the rebuild by the way.

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The transom was welded back up this spring and is just fine now. I never did add a third bunk but I did change how it gets tied down. My whole issue was the boat moving up and down while on the trailer. I was using 2 basic 1000 lb. straps one on each log. They were weak and would loosen over a long drive. Now I am using one 3" 10,000 lb. ratchet strap over the transom instead. It pulls the boat down (so to speak) in the center and doesn't allow it to move at all like the 2 smaller straps did. I have towed the boat a bunch this year and just recently to northern mi. Where my problem happened last year. Basically now that the boat cannot move the transom saver isn't pounding the boat while going down the road. My issue was caused by the boat moving up and down and not the fact that there wasn't a center bunk. The only thing I wish I would have done different is start with a bigger log in the center. This whole project kind of fell into my lap and I worked through it. I Have learned a ton so it was all worth it ! I would love to build another in couple years after I finally call this one complete l.o.l.
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