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    Posted: 12/13/2009 at 10:01pm

Well I thought I might as well start my rebuild thred so I can ask most of my questions before I dive into it this spring. My project boat is a 1983 riviera cruisier. It is 20 feet with a 16 foot deck. It had the deck and carpet replace this past spring but the carpet is the wrong kind. My boss bought it and sold it to me this fall for what he paid for it, I though it was a good buy for $ 1,000 ! The boat spent it"s whole life on a small lake about 1/2 mile from my house. I haven"t had it in the water yet so I alredy can"t wait for spring ! I plan on new furiture, carpet, and paint/graphics. It"s all wrapped up for the winter so I am just begining to gather all of the parts for the rebuild . Well here it is !!!

I don"t think the toons look too bad for their age

The motor is a 50 hp. mercury that fires right up and has a newer water pump

Thanks for checking it out !!!

                 , shaun

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Don"t look too bad for its age. One recommendation though, put more blocks under the toon to distribute the weight, you"ve got items there that"ll flatten it out. Too much weight on too little of contact area. Also be sure to change out your lower unit fluids and refill it with fresh (don"t want any water possilbly busting that lower unit) and trim it into the down position (so water drains out). Have you done any winterization on it yet (stabil in the gas, fog the cylinders and carbs with Seafoam)?
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Real nice for the age and price!! Interesting transom design too..
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Yep I agree with you, green carpet on a blue theme doesn"t quite work does it  (or whatever color carpet that is).
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    Sorry about using links,I"m not the best with a computer it"s amazing I can turn this thing on! I know it wasn"t the best to park the boat like that but I rented a trailer to get it home and thats what was handy. As soon as I get my bunk style trailer it won"t have to sit on the ground anymore ! If you look there is a quart of oil on the bow in the first picture. I changed the lower oil when I winterized it. As far as the carpet color it was white. The guy who my boss got if from was a carpet guy so after he replaced the deck it got a piece of carpet that belongs in a house. It looked great the first time I saw it,but grew moss over the summer !!! I"ve been looking at alot of other boat and haven"t seen another transom like the one on this boat. Both the transom and cross members are galvanized steel. Thanks again for fixing the pictures !!!

 

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When you start your rebuild you should replace those bolts in the transom with Stainless steel.  You probably have the same thing on your stringers also.  You'll want to replace all the steel bolts with Stainless steel.  You might also look at a Pontoon anchor winch instead of the one you currently have.  The Pontoon winch's have the davit integrated and it extends the davit out over the edge.  Your current setup will allow the anchor to bounce against the Pontoon while raising and lowering the anchor.  You can also place a regular anchor winch on a longer piece of aluminium to accomplish the same thing.  Kind of like on my Fishing boat below.

 

 

 



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Yep, I noticed the dings on his toons right below the anchor
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Nice buy! Have fun on your rebuild!
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I think it"s a good boat to -make new again-!
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      Well I got a little closer to getting my boat ready today ! I picked up a new trailer. My budget is tight with everything that I would like to do so I have been looking for a used trailer ,but had no luck. Today I called a couple local trailer shops to see if they had any left over models. No deals there, but I did find a great deal on a 2010 ! What I ended up with is a 2010 hoosier WFB 120. It"s a single axle with the ladder ,tounge jack, and load guides. I pick this up for $ 1250 + tax. Apparently there"s not too much demand for boat trailers in january. I don"t know much about hoosier, but it seems like they make a good trailer. Now once I get a chance I can get the boat off the ground and onto the trailer. After that it"s off to my buddies house for some custom fence work.

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Good deal on the trailer. Hoosier makes some nice ones for sure. Shoot us some pics when you get her on there..
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That"s what I bought from PontoonStuff was a hoosier 20ft with dual brakes, love that trailer with torison bar suspension
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     I am getting closer yet to collecting all of the pieces for my boat ! I pick up some nice carpet last week here locally and this weekend I am picking up another boat. I know I haven"t even had mine in the water yet ,but with having 19" toons a third one couldn"t hurt ! My buddy is a fabricator and said no problem shortening the new log. I didn"t plan on changing alot of stuff when I first got this boat ,but the more time I spend looking over everyone elses rebuilds I get new ideas ! With the addition of the third log I plan on making it into a stern entry. This should help bring this 1980"s toon into the 2000"s !!! I am definitely going to need the designer furniture to help bring things up to date !!! I have searched all over this site for info on adding the extra toon. Does anyone have extra info to share ? Any input would be greatly appreciated

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   I made a road trip to pick up the donor boat for my project. It"s a 20" boat already stripped and ready for restoration, or parting out ! Anyways here is what I ended up with.

  Here is the transom that came with the boat. I think I am going to use this instead of the one that came on my boat.

     It took about an hour to get it all stripped down. Anyone else looking for a log? I have an extra !

    Once I had the trailer cleared off I thought I might as well get my boat onto it. I wanted to try and do this with out unwrapping it due to the fact it is now snowing again !

    Working by myself was a bit of a pain ,but it went pretty smooth ! Once it was lifted high enough I backed the trailer under the boat. I had to remove the rear guides on the trailer so they wouldn"t hit the strap running around the boat.

    Now that it"s on the trailer I can hopefully get it to my buddies house for the major modifications. Untill then it"s going to sit wrapped and wait for warm weather !!!

 I hope I didn"t post too many pictures here ,but I know that"s what everyone likes !!! I will keep you guys posted as soon as work strarts.

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What"s the length of the log and the location, I could be interested in one.
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Originally posted by Wildcat Dude Wildcat Dude wrote:

What"s the length of the log and the location, I could be interested in one.

    The log is 20" x 19" and is in ortonville michigan ( between flint and pontiac). If you need it shortened or modified my buddy can make that happen. I will let it go cheap !!! Let me know I am sure we can work something out !

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I see that"s 3.5 hours from Elkhart, IN. Planning to make a trip to Elkhart later this year. I"ll send you a pm later.
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Originally posted by Wildcat Dude Wildcat Dude wrote:

I see that"s 3.5 hours from Elkhart, IN. Planning to make a trip to Elkhart later this year. I"ll send you a pm later.

    Thats funny because I picked it up in white pigeon mi. Well thats where it was supposed to be after a bit of driving down back roads we ended up just across the indiana line about 1000" from 80/90 . If time would have allowed I would have visited pontoonstuff ! I do make frequent trips to dayton ohio to visit my wifes family so that could shave quite a bit of time off a trip for you.

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Interested in selling one cut down to 7ft?
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Originally posted by briankinley2004 briankinley2004 wrote:

Interested in selling one cut down to 7ft?

   Yeah I could sell it cut down, 20" or 7" it"s all the same to me! I just need to talk to my buddy to see how much he would want to do that. He has to shorten the one I am keeping and said it won"t be a problem. I will talk to him and send you a PM ( if I can do that yet, still kinda new here) with what he says.

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 Mods , sorry for talking about selling the log as it was not my intention when I posted my progress. Tearing that boat apart became part of the project !!!

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Thanks. Like your method of loading the boat!
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While you"ve got that transom off, and your buddy"s doing some welding, you oughta see if you can remove that hunk of wood in that transom and make it all metal.  That wood will be a maintenance item.

Also, on the original transom, is it some sort of adjustable setup?  The bolts look like they might be pivot points and there looks to be a bar heading upwards.  Would that be some sort of manual tilt?


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Originally posted by cattzap cattzap wrote:

While you"ve got that transom off, and your buddy"s doing some welding, you oughta see if you can remove that hunk of wood in that transom and make it all metal.  That wood will be a maintenance item.

Also, on the original transom, is it some sort of adjustable setup?  The bolts look like they might be pivot points and there looks to be a bar heading upwards.  Would that be some sort of manual tilt?

The original transom is adjustable. I had never seen one like this untill I got the boat. I have since looked around the web and found a few. It doesn"t tilt the motor it just raises and lowers it. One of the ones I found said it allowed you to run various lenght motors. I can tell from the whitness marks that this one has spent it"s whole life in one spot.  That is probably a good idea to get rid of the wood, it would be one less thing to worry about. I am still not sure exactly what my plan is for the transom I was leaning towards trying to build one on the third log. There were some good pictures on a thread that seemes to have dissapered  I was hoping to follow the build to see their transom construction. It"s snowing good where I am at so I have time to look around the web and figure it out on my own.         &n bsp;     shaun

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      Ok I got the memo that I need to update this rebuild. Well I don"t have any pics but the boat is finally uncovered ! We had an 80 degree day a week ago and I thought I would run it to the lake for a test run before the rebuild. I wanted to have something to compare it to after all of the new mods. For what ever reason it wouldn"t start. It would start if you jumped the starter solenoid. Long story short it is a problem in the wiring for the controls. The guy who replaced the floor removed the console in a rather crude method. He cut right through the harness about 2 in. front of the control box. When he put it back together he simply twisted and taped the wires. We are pretty sure that is my problem. My brother is great with wiring and said he wants to start over from scratch. I decided not to even fool with these old ugly conrols, my new top mount controls should be here today ! I have been collecting parts and the front room in my house is looking like a boat shop! I have a new bearcat stern entry folding ladder, a new manitou aluminum transom rated for 115 hp. that will be welded into the third log, and collection of small things from the bass pro boat sale !  I am hoping to get the boat to my buddys real soon for the major mods and welding. He has been busy so I am waiting for him to get a couple days to fit me in. I still haven"t decided on furniture ,but I still have alittle time to make up my mind. I will keep you guys updates as my project finally gets under way !!!

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Hey a pic of those controls would be nice to see (and one of the controls its replacing). Can"t believe someone would just cut the control cable whne all they had to do is unplug it - they must have really wanted you to replace it
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      As soon as the controls show up I will shoot a pic. Now as far as the boat not starting it decided to fix itself today.  While I was taking a couple measurements today I decied I might as well turn that key. What do you know it fired right up! I was glad to have it fire up but now I know for sure there are gremlins in those wires. I guess it was better to have it act up last week on the trailer rather than out in the middle of the lake !!!

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   Sorry no pics yet but I did get the new controls. They look very nice the only problem is the fact the instructions are in italian.  More important though I finally got the boat in the water ! I was able to run it to the lake today for a little cruise. This is the first time the boat has been in the water in over a year and the first time I have seen it float. If fired right up , shifted very smoothly, and performed well. I am glad I had a chance to run it before the modifications. Now I have a base to compare my improvements to. The third log and new transom will be welcome improvements for sure. With my two brothers sitting on the rear bench the adjustable transom would scoop water at high speed. High speed is a term I am using loosly  It actually pulled the back of the boat down. Once they moved towards the bow it seemed to plane off.  All in all it was a fun little boat ride but now it"s time to get to work !!!

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Now if you"re doing a 3rd toon transom conversion, please document it for the rest of us who haven"t done anything like that. I myself would be very interested as to what"s involved. Especially if you incorporate a built in tank just ahead of the transom.

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     I will definitely take lots of pictures and document the whole process. I started taking some measurement today. I slid the new log under the boat today and took abunch of measurements. The mounts on the new log are shorter than the outside logs. It looks like I will be holding it down 3.5 inches from the bottom of the cross member. This will put the center log 2.5 inches lower than the others. My biggest concern is the height the transom needs to be. I beleive it should work just fine shimmed down the same as the log.  The new transom is 17 inches deep and the log is 19 inches. I want to make sure this is just right before I start cutting any metal.

 WCD, I plan on having the fuel tank in the transom, but I am still researching that. I found a used tank for a tracker but it was 30 gallons and close to 6 feet long. It wouldn"t fit in my transom. Over the winter I found a company that had plastic tanks that would fit in a transom. I wasn"t really considering it at the time so I didn"t save the site and now for the life of me I cannot find it. I might just have to get one made from aluminum.

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Ok so I finally found some time to get some pictures on here. I have been working on getting things ready for the welding project . Here is a shot of the old controls. You can see the crude splice job the previous owner made where the wires leave the conrol box.

Here is a picture of the new controls.

This is the new bearcat stern entry ladder

While I am showing my collection of new parts here is the new transom rated for 115 h.p.

Yesterday I finally got the center tube mounted for a test float. It will need to come back off again but I need to figure out how high the transom should be welded into the log. I want to make sure the motor is sitting in the correct amount of water. I ran to the lake today for a float test and could not beleive how high the boat sat in the water ! With the old adjustable transom I had my 2 brothers stting on the rear bench and at high speed the rear of the boat was pulled down. The top of the logs were actually under water. I can wait to see how it handles with the center log !

 I know there is no motor transom but even when I climbed out onto the back of the center tube it barely dropped in the water. I wanted to see how if floated with a load so I decided to back it into the water with the rear straps hooked to the trailer. I was amazed that even with the weight of the trailer hanging from the boat it still sat much much higher than ever before. I tried to get a picture of that test but it was so windy that the boat and trailer were drifting fast and soon would be jack knived off to the side of the boat ramp. Here is another shot of if floating on it"s own. You can see from the stains on the tube how it used to sit in the water.

I have the center tube mounted 2 inches lower than the outer tubes. I am hoping that this will give it a v toon effect.

After seeing how well the boat sat in the water I am really excited to get things going. I finished tearing the boat down this afternoon. The only thing left to do is remove the walls and rub rail. I am ready to start the rebuild as soon as I get my welding done. I am adding  2 feet of deck behind the rear fence and adding a gate and the swim ladder shown above. Hopefully the welding will start in the next week. Summer will be here soon so it"s time to get the ball rolling !!! My heating a cooling buddy is getting some coil cleaner for me so theres another project. I do have a question for you guys. Has anyone recovered there bimini or is it cheaper just ot get a new one? Again I will keep you guys posted as sson as the transom/tube build gets underway !  shaun    P.S. sorry if the pics are the wrong size

***realiged text so pics would align properly***



Edited by Wildcat Dude
1983 Riviera Cruiser 20ft custom tri toon
1991 Yamaha 90HP (rebuilt 2012)
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