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Now my helm area isn't the purdiest, Wink, for a 97 it is still standing, and that is what matters, and functional. So as I was tearing it apart, I thought of more ideas of how to make this helm a bit purdier.
Here is the orginal, and notice the gauge area, I would love me a set of the white back plated gauges with a chrome circle cap, but again, my money tree is very disappointing this year. So my next thought was a little bit of paint and some paint markers and here we go. Big smile
 
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With some handy work of some super glue, paint markers, and sparkling black paint I found laying back in the garage, I made the gauges new again. By the way, the paint can was so old, when I went to remove the lid, it shattered in millions of pieces, but the paint came out beautifully.
Here is my future captain with the gauges.
 
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Now after I had everything out, I realized there are some holes that needed some attentions. If I am going this far, I might as well give it an extra couple of bucks and fill in the old holes. Good thing I have been youtubing how to fiberglass stuff. My plan is to sand this all done and repaint it using a white gloss enemal. (scratch resistant) So here is the top piece with the fiberglass patches, tomorrow I will sand it down and paint it. Hopefully by afternoon be able to mount it all back together, really excited about seeing it put back together. Total cost so far on the top is about twenty bucks.
 
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The few holes you see left open are for the throttle control.
 
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Really taking shape.  When finished you can be proud of your handy work!!  Thumbs Up  Good helper also.  Thumbs UpThumbs Up
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Well today I was able to finish the top part of the helm. Still not sure what I am going to do with the bottom, the wife and I are kicking some ideas around. By no means does this thing look brand new, but if looks alot better and with less holes. I watched youtube videos of how to fiberglass and gave it a worl. Now I know why they say after fiberglassing over, and sanding down, use bondo and cover it over and then sand again. I left that part out, and you can see in the pics what I thought was smooth and would not show, stuck out like a soar thumb. So remember, sand, fiberglass, two coats min., sand, bondo, final sand, then paint. As this project goes on, I am sure I will become real good at thisWink Here is first and second coat.
 
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notice how you can see the patch work, this is where that bondo step comes in. It will smooth it all out and fill in all the little holes that you can't see or feel. Next time my friends, next time...........lol
 
 
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Well after cleaning up some wiring up under the helm, while the top was off made it real nice and easy, I started installing things one by one. I did move my trim tilt gauge up by the other ones, and also moved the 12vdc plug up where you can see it and use it a little better. I could sit on this boat all day now looking at that helm with pride. As I said to someone earlier, if someone gets on my boat and wants to judge my craftsmanship with rude comments, prepare to swim. I know I'm not a professional, but it looks a lot sharper now Big smile
 
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Plastic spray paint, clear coat enemal, some paint markers, a little bit of time, a helper that hides all your tools, and a whooooollllee lot of patience, you can make anything work Embarrassed
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Great job and it shows. I really like that. Hug Beer
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Hitting the water tomorrow to see how well the toons hold the paint. Sent a picture of the helm to my brother, and he asked where I got all the money to get the new equipment. He about dropped when I told him I spent twenty dollars and just refaced everything. Might have some water pics after tomorrow, mainly going out to scout out a new lake for possible use on the big weekend.
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What a great transformation! Looks like a million bucks (or certainly a lot more than $20!!). Great job...
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Thanks.
Well the update on the wonderful paint job of the boat is as follows: The pontoons held their paint, except where they scraped down the side of my tall outter guides. I want to get rid of them, but the boss won't let me yet, so I we just have to live with the scrape down each side of the toon. The rest still looks great. The helm of course did not change, but the steering wheel is not such a great idea to paint. It was still a bit tacky in some places and of course being white, showed dirt right away. So my fix will be the next walmart trip, I am going to get the wheel cover that looks like wood grain, should add a nice touch to the helm. I will show pictures of it when I get it. As far as pics from today, I will start a new post in show off my boat and keep this just for updating/remodeling pics.
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By the way, for some more experience guys here, I have a question. Today I broke out my gps on the phone and tracked my speed, since I am still waiting for my boat mount gps/fishfinder. It is a 97 75 hp Tracker by Mercury, at 3000 going against the wind and one canopy up (which is like a parachute) I was hitting 12 mph. Going with the wind, opend up all the way, which I could only get 4500 rpm, I bounced between 19 and 20 mph. Now I am not that trustworthy in my rpm gauge, but does this sound right?
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4500 sounds on the low end to me too at WOT. I am thinking you should be between 5000 and 6000 RPM. The cable may need adjusting to open all the way, the motor may have issues or it could be propped wrong. Also check trim and motor placement
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The console looks fantastic!! And for 20 bucks...Clap The RPM's are a little low. Recommeded range is 4750-5250. Do you know what pitch prop you're running?
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Had a couple people ask me that Rick, but I cannot see it stamped anywhere on the prop. I believe where it is stamped it is setting inside the housing  a bit. I measured it today, and off the one fin to the center was 6 1/4 inches. So it is somewhere in the 12-13 inch diameter, but as far as the pitch is concerned, not sure. I think I am going to pull it tomorrow to see if I can find it stamped on there somewhere. Also, anyone have any good sites to get a seal kit for a tilt/trim hydrolic. My wiper seal stuck to the hydrolic and ruined it, so now it holds no fluid Cry. I want to just rebuild the whole thing, no sense it tearing it off every year, do a complete rebuild of it now and be good for years to come. The only number I can find on it was 37-43530-14, googled it, came up as a mercury trim tilt motor. Thanks guys
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Have a look on the end of the hub where the prop nut tightens up (Might have to remove the nut to see it). Sometimes it's stamped there depending on the style of prop..
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That does look great!  You gotta love a cheap rebuild, especially when it saves that kind of money and looks that great.  Very nice.
 
As for the speed, the pitch is the key.  Too much pitch and the motor will be overgeared and under too much load to reach its max RPM range.  You gotta love starting from an unknown pitch on a different boat, it is like a guessing game.   Borrowing different pitch props can help see what works.   A prop shop can determine the pitch of your current prop for you if it winds up not being marked anywhere, and if the tach is right trying one with a little less pitch might bring the revs up. 
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Update: I have not had the chance to take the prop off yet. Still getting settled in down here in Florida in the new house and job. Can't wait to get back to work on the boat. Lots of plans for this cheap rebuild. Not sure when I will be back, but I check on here every now and then. Have fun y'all and enjoy the boating season. Catch ya later.
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Thanks for the update Kevin. Sounds like all is going well. Let us know when you get going on the toon again..Thumbs Up
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Well there is no picture for my latest upgrade, but I finally got my GPS/Fish finder back and I hooked that up as well as a 200 watt amp to a 10 sub that is under one of the back seats. I didn't want some crazy stereo system, but just enough to hear it while underway and small enough not to drain my battery all the in one day. Not that we are getting more and more into diving here in the Gulf, I am looking at making up some new steps/bench that will attach to the front while anchored. Also next in line is a rebuild on the console base. Hope everyone is enjoying the summer days. Most likely my work will begin in fall when it cools down some. Happy sailing everyone. Tongue
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The clouds got the best of me today, it turned out to be a nice day, but instead I did get some little work done to the trailer. Made the steps bigger and replaced the bump boards on the front. You can see the bottom step is the welded on small step, about eight inches, took some pre treated 2x6 covered in carpet and bolted them on. THis is just a temp fix until I can get around to welding on aluminum steps with a hand rail, like they sell for almost 3 grand. Until then Big smile
 
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On this picture you can see the front bump boards replaced and recovered as well as both steps on. Made the captain/wife happy, so thats always good :) The far right bump board looks crooked because they are angled, but they are actually straight. Wink Now I want to extend my tongue about three feet, any ideas or suggestions?
 
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This post discusses adding length to the trailer tongue, might be worth a read.
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Ok, finally was able to go out and pull the prop off. So it is a stiletto 11315 M1315, which I researched and found to be a 13 1/4" x 15"pitch. It is a 97 Tracker, 75 hp, my current WOT is about 4600 rpm. My outboard is mounted at the lowest point, and my gps speed is about 20 mph to my hummingbird 595c. Any suggestions, ideas, pointers, anything. I am not looking for speed at it is a 25' suntracker, I am looking for better fuel consumption. thanks guys, hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. We plan on getting out tomorrow, the boss didn't feel like going out today, although our little came in this morning saying boat and beach lol.
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Also, does anyone know where to get a seal kit for tilt trim 37-43530-1. Thanks.
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Tracker didn't make motors, so its either a Evinrude/Johnson or Mercury, most likely a Mercury as they made 75hp in 97. Recommended prop is 13.75 x 15 for performance and speed. If you've got the motor at its lowest point, then either raise it up a hole but make sure your trim is correct based on speed via GPS and RPM's. Since you're only getting 4600 rpm, I'd go with the 14x11.
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