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Well I finished cleaning the residue from the deck yesterday and I hope to start putting carpet down today.  The aluminum deck is nice but it sure is a mess trying to clean it up after removing the carpet.  Pics to follow.
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Ken-  the white gauges on the wood grain looks very sharp!  
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Thanks Jenn.

Just power washed the deck; waiting for it to dry. 

Got to fiddling with the gauge layout while waiting and WCD, I tried your idea on putting the small gauges above the tach and I agree with you; I like that better.  So I may steal your idea.



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Hey, you"re welcome to any ideas I have (usually very few at my age ) but I think it"d look super sharp with those white gauges. I think I"ve decided to just keep my gauges instead of putting in new ones (except for the speedo - getting rid of it and another I have) 0-35 and 0-60
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Well got all the holes in the deck covered with aluminum patches and the carpet installed today

Here"s a few pics of today"s progress:

I"m really pleased with the way the carpet turned out.    It was a lot easier than I had thought it was going to be.  It only took me and my son-in-law about 3 hours total.  The roller was a life saver.  I used a tile roller that I rented from Home Depot.  It only took 1 bucket of adhesive for the deck (8 X 21).  Will start cleaning and polishing the edge trim tomorrow.  I'm undecided as to whether I'm going to clean the toons or not.  I know I'm not going to polish them.  I may use acid to clean them up but I really don't want to tackle the polishing that some of you guys have done.  They look great but this old man is just not up to it. 



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Looking good.
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Looks like you"re younger than me and surely in better health than this one stroke 1 heart attack 10 heart surgery old senile dude  not to include right hand, elbow and shoulder surgery. I use my folding chair and do 3 or 4 ft at a time. Looks like your toons ain"t too bad that F9 would prep with a cheap buffer from HF. But hey, its really about getting the top half done for getting it out on the water anyways ain"t it.   Ride in luxury, style and comfort.
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WCD, I"ll be 64 this year.  The young guy is my son-in-law.  I"m the old fat one. 
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OOOhhh, pardon me , ok so you"re like me  but hey, you got a canopy to work under to stay out of the sun and I don"t actually after looking back over the pics, I still thought you was younger than me and it was you I was referencing. I can't get on my knees (not the left one anyways), not unless I don't want to walk for a month if I do I know those knee pads work pretty good.

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Muriatic acid is what I used on mine full strength, it didn"t eat my carpet, but I sprayed very carefully and only let it sit for couple of minutes before hosing it off with lots of water as I wanted to make sure it didn"t eat the carpet and grass (and it didn"t affect either). I also only sprayed like 8ft at a time, slower yes, but more controllable. I had very very thick scum buildup and full strength toon brite didn"t cut it. CLR did help with the initial big buildup, but the very hardest of the crud wouldn"t budge without the full strength acid.
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I mentioned above that I only needed 1 gallon of adhesive to lay the carpet on and 8 X 21 deck....  Just as I was getting ready to start spreading the adhesive, my son-in-noticed that the instructions called for a 1/16in X 1/16in trowel.  I was getting ready to use a 3/8in trowel.  If you use anything larger than 1/16in trowel you will use a lot more adhesive and you don"t need to. 

Just my 2-cents worth....and worth every penny

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You"ve heard of the RedNeck Tool Kit?  It"s called.....Duct tape.    I used duct tape on my trowel to get it down to 1/16.  Worked like a charm.
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Well, I"m still waiting on my gauges and I"ve changed my mind again.....  Here"s what I think I"m going to do with the gauge panel:

It"s just a paste-up but I think I like it better.  Will be to the right OR flipped and on the left of steering wheel.

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Capt:  I use Adobe Photoshop Elements

If you look close you can see where I've just cut out the gauges after printing them.



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   OH !!  Gotta draw us Okies pictures    I used the duct tape to go across the trowel making the notches about 1/16 deep.  Couldn"t do anything about the width of the notches..
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No I didn"t.  Is in good shape; just cleaned it.  Not going to get into that polishing WORK  .

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Used my power washer and just household spray cleaner.  My rails are still in very good shape and the panels are also, with a few scrapes and nicks here and there.  Good enough for government work .

Got started Thursday putting the fencing back on.  Got both sides and the front on.  Only lack the 3 back sections.  Weather is cool and damp this weekend   but Monday (my day off) is supposed to be good.  My son-in-law is off all next week so he will be able to help me quite a bit.  Hope to get most everything back together.  Still waiting on my gauges...

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Just don"t know for sure about the livewell yet.  It will probably depend on what I do regarding the sundeck across the back.   I may just get a large igloo and ice 'em down as we catch 'em.

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Ken- that"s how I clustered my gauges (your most recent pic)---I should take a pic for you.  Happy with how it turned out.  
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Thanks, Jenn, I"d like to see it.
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Here"s a picture of my furniture progress today:

 

The back rest on the short 27in. seat across the back is not very stable.  I guess I"m going to have to reinforce it somehow.  It moves way too much when you lean against it.  The captain"s chair is too tall and it can only be lowered by 2 more inches, by cutting of the post.  Otherwise, I"m very pleased.

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What pedestal base did you get?
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Here"s the pedestal I bought:

The way I see it, the only thing I can do is cut the post off about 2 inches.



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I"ve found, at least for my short legs, that a 12 inch tall base is about right once you add the thicker captains chair on top of it (And the reclining Captain"s chair that I have from Pontoonstuff is very thick). Problem is most of the adjustable ones start at 13 inch. I also have a single Captain"s chair up on the port side of my toon that I used a fixed mount base and it is 10 inches tall. I bought one of the taller adjustable ones originally and the Wife said it was way to tall and tipsy. For my Captain"s chair, I have one similar to the one you bought and also altered it a bit for a better fit. So I guess what I"m saying is if you want an adjustable base , you"ll have to break out the hacksaw.
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Rick, the only thing that concerns me is if I cut it off and it"s still too tall, I"m stuck with a base that is too tall.  It appears that I only have about 2 inches that I can cut off.

Jason, it"s a 36inch bench with the 9in arm unit.

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Find something that is 11 inches tall (Maybe a Concrete block, milk carton, Etc.) and put the seat on top of it and sit down and see how it feels. That"s what I did with mine..
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Thanks for the feedback guys.  I"ll have to take a closer look at it and see just what all I can do. 
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Jason, I moved the seating back about a foot or so and got rid of the fishing chairs.  I still wanted enough room to get around behind the seating to get to the gas tank and leave some room for STUFF and storage between the seats and the back end.
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I finished up with the fencing today; after buying more spacers.  I also installed 1 of my front benches.  I had seen someone's post that the couldn't understand why they had a gap between their seats.  So, I mounted the bases 1st butted against each other then installed the cushions.  Worked out great.  The main thing I got figured out though today was my captain"s chair pedestal.  I ended up cutting 1-5/8 inch off of the post so it would drop all the way down to the top of the base.  Worked perfect.  .

Here's a couple of pics of my new carpet and seats:



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I was trying to figure out why I was seeing so many spots on the carpet and seats until I realized it was little rays of sunshine coming through holes in the overhead.
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