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    Posted: 03/22/2010 at 6:20pm

Hello all.  I"m Ken from up in Northeast Oklahoma; I"m semi-retired and work 3 days a week.  I"m new to the forum.  Found you guys AND gals about 2 weeks ago.  I"ve already sponged some great feedback and ideas from the great members here.  THANKS !! 

The upholstery and carpet on my "97 SunTracker Fishin" Barge 21ft has finally bit the dust.  The upholstery has dried out and started cracking and the carpet has seen it"s better days.  Soooo.... I have started a rebuild from the deck up.  The deck, thank goodness, is aluminum  so I" not having to do anything to it, short of cleaning up the rubber backing from the carpet and the adhesive.  I hope to start putting the new carpet down later this week.  The big snow storm this past weekend has played a little havoc on my rebuild time.  My goal is to have it done by mid-May.

I bought my furniture, console and carpet from PontoonStuff.com. who else .   Absolutely great people to work with.  Heres what was accomplished the first 3 days (Wed nite and Thurs & Fri.).  Removed most of the railing and some of the furniture.  60 70 degrees beautiful spring weather.

3rd and 4th day was able to remove everything else and the carpet.  Even started Removing some of the rubber backing and adhesive.
 
 
Found out that the deck edge trim was welded together and was all 1-piece and had to be removed the same way.  No problem just different.

This is a picture I took today (Monday 60 degrees) showing what was accomplished on Thursday & Friday.  You can see the 1-piece edge trim on the ground to the right of the boat.  Then the SNOW came Saturday and Sunday.  30s and 40s and LOTS of SNOW.  No work on the boat.

I want to thank Wildcat Dude for helping me with my pics.  I can"t seem to get them down to the right size, so I emailed them to him and he is going to do his magic. 

***uploaded resized and modified pics for Ken***



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Ken at first I didn"t see that much wrong with your present furniture that a little cleaning couldn"t help but some of the pics so pretty good damage. That"s what you need a cover for, to protect that expensive stuff from the sun and other elements. That carport cover helps if it was just longer. Looking forward to seeing your progress.
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Welcome Ken....looks like you are making quick headway on a great project!  The furniture is a big investment, and Aerospace 303 vinyl protectant works geat in conjunction with a cover to ward off mildew, sun, and water.  Kepp the pics coming! 
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Pictures of the deck after removing carpet and starting to clean-up rubber backing and adhesive.  Have a few holes that will be patched with aluminum plate.  This is the slowest and hardest part of the rebuild so far.   Lots of elbow grease.

 



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Hard work, but should be a lot easier and quicker to lay
down the new carpet. I know that actually putting down the
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Hello Jason and welcome to the forum.  What part of southern OK are you from?

As for tips on removing furniture, etc., a blow torch works great  .  The bolts that hold down the furniture and console tend to rust and corode (the nuts more than the bolts) and I had to cut some of mine off.  Is your deck aluminum?  I"m still working on getting the rubber backing and adhesive cleaned up from removing the carpet.  Acetone helps some, but it"s also pretty messy and as it evaporates what you"ve scraped up hardens. .

Good luck with your rebuild and let know how it"s going with pics.

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I looked at having it reupolstered but it was going to cost more than new furniture.  I will end up with more seating and it still cost less than having it redone.  I went with the Designer furniture and 20oz carpet.  Is yours a 21" Fishin" Barge also?

Here's the results of using the belt sander today.  Removed the rubber backing down to the old adhesive.  I think I will be able to lay the carpet on top of this.

 

***combined posts, resized pic to 800x600***



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Jason, here's the furniture I got from PS.  I got the Cream & Burgandy.  I'm putting 2 36" benches up front instead of the 2 fishing seats.  We fish out of the back 2 seats.



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Just a reminder to all our new folks. Please only quote what is needed to get a point across (or highlight). Avoid quoting the whole message and never quote anything that has a picture in it. You can make changes to a picture and upload that to show your point if its necessary. We love pictures, but keep in mind that our host (PontoonStuff) pays for the server space and storage while we get to use it for free   thanks everyone.
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Yeah I know, it takes time   So Jason, what's the details on your boat? I think you mentioned something about a rebuild. Start a new thread and tell us about your plans here Start Your Own Personal Thread as we'd all like to see a pic of two of the diamond in the rough (as we like to call it).

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Jason,

My livewell was inside the 36" bench w/ flip-flop back rest, which set up front across the middle of the bow, behind the 2 fishing chairs.  The drain went through the floor.  My plan is to move it behind the captain"s chair, along the side panel.



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Jason, the answer to that is yes. But comments from PontoonStuff are rare nowadays and they seldom look in all the threads unless I alert them to something they should be aware of. If you"re wanting PontoonStuff to comment on their stuff, a phone call will do much better and it answers your question(s) directly regarding their products. Somebody on the forum did take one of those flip seats and put an insert in it if memory serves me right. Some have taken the wise seat found here which has a cooler base in it and converted it to a live well.

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Jason,

I haven"t decided for sure what I"m going to do.  My thinking is to use the old flip seat and maybe buy a cushion from PS to match my new furniture.  The other possibility is to convert a cooler that would set at the back behind the captains chair.    Just don"t know for sure yet.

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Ken/Jason,

On the glue on aluminum deck. I for the life of me can"t remember how I found it online but it was shipped from Dallas.....but....there is a chemical that works great for removing glue & backing from non porus surfaces. I used it in a prison to remove just what your facing except it was carpet glued over ceramic tile. We pulled carpet up, sprayed it on and then pressure washed it off. I will see if I can re-locate if but found it by doing a search for "removing carpet from ceramic tile". It was some type of floor stripper. I would think if you had a pressure washer you may be able to make some headway there especially if its water based glue.

As to the livewell in the seat. I made one out of a Wise plastic seat similar to those sold here. It was given to me. I have pics of it posted on my rebuild thread if you can find it. Should be under 89 Party Hut Rebuild or something like that. I also have the cooler seat like WCD shows. I love it and it keeps ice well and drains thru the floor. The only thing to be careful of is make sure there are no obstacles on your fence rail that will keep it from opening fully.

 

 

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Here is a link to the process using chemical with pressure washer

http://www.ehow.com/how_6069413_use-remove-outdoor-carpet-gl ue.html

 

Here is a product that may work. Not the one we used though

http://www.armorpoxy.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&St ore_Code=A&Product_Code=AI-MAST1G&Category_Code =

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Thanks Brian for the info.  I"ll definitely check into it.  However, I"m thinking that the new glue should bond okay to what is left when I"m through sanding.  Anyone with any feedback on why it wouldn"t?

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Just thinking out loud...would it be like mixing paints...oil base vs water base....should the new glue not be compatable with the old when it reactivates you may have a mess. I would think your OK and worth a shot. Another thing I suggested to someone but don"t know if the person did....a floor sander (think buffer with large sandpaper pad) would probably grind that glue right off. If you don"t have experience though might be tough when it ran over the edge and went downhill 4-5ft. They rent here for 35/day plus pad cost. Ken all this is my thoughts and not experience as I had to replace all the decking on my toon.
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Guys, this is KenC"s rebuild thread now, not yours, you should be talking about what"s going on on KenC"s rebuild. Jason if you"re rebuilding one, start a rebuild thread with before pic"s and show us your progress.   we'd really like to see what you're doing to it.

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Had some minor surgery Tuesday so I"ve not been able to tackle the glue/deck problem just yet.  However, I"ve had some time to do some searching for gauges.  I"ve decided on the Faria Kronos (Speedo, Volt, Water Pressure and Fuel).

 

 I got my dash panel from PS yesterday and it looks great!!  Can"t wait to get my replacement console so I can start working on it.

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Now I like that gauge although I will no longer spend a plug nickel on a speedo. It"ll be monitored by GPS (speedo off by almost 8mph and its new). That white bezel ought to look good on the dash panel dark wood color. I"d like to see it when that all gets mounted.
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WCD, I got the speedo because it looks good and is much less than the tach.  My GPS is in my Lowrance unit and it"s about 11 years old and they say the battery (for the maps) is only good for 10+ years (they say it"s cost prohibitive to replace it) so it may go out on me anytime now.  The locator portion is excellent, so I guess I"ll keep it.

Jason, I got the panel (which is totally blank) from PS.  You might check with Annette.  It"s made for the larger console but I"ll be able to cut it down to fit on the console I bought.  I think it was $50 with shipping.  (That"s cheap!!)  As for the roller "thingy", I"m not sure what you"re talking about.  Mine doesn"t have one.  I"m replacing the old tach with the speedo.



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KenC, a tach is very important for an outboard as its the true measure of engine problems and performance, so I wouldn"t go without one if at all possible, its far more valuable than a speedo. I"m just saying  (and my 1cent opinion)
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WCD, I agree with you on the speedos.   I was looking at cutting expenses where I could on this undertaking but after giving it some more thought... ... I decided it"s only money and... ...and you can"t take it with you...so I went with the tach instead.  Ordered my gauges last night..   
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Here"s what I"m thinking of doing with the gauges......

 

 

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Nice cluster and everything important right there.
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Thanks WCD.  I"m getting antsy to get this thing started back in the other direction (reassembly) and looking like a boat again.

Jason, I sent you a PM regarding the gauges.  Everything you see was already in the old panel, which I"m sure is the same panel as yours.  My boat is a Signature model, which has a few more bells & whistles and may have had some gauges that yours did not.

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You"ve given me an idea though on my cluster (when I get the new console in June). Put the smaller ones on top half circle with the tach in the middle underneath
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Nice looking setup Ken. The Tach was a real good move and sooner or later, you"d be kicking yourself for not having one. Those Faria gauges look great and their warranty is the best in the business..
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