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    Posted: 05/02/2011 at 9:19am
Its been over a year since I started working on the toon, And I thought I started a rebuild thread but I cant find it. Anyways after piddling with it off and on when I had time, I decided now is the time for a fresh start. I started with buying some carpet and glue from PS. and while it was coming I tore down. All the funiture had already been discarded in the last frenzy. As I got everything off and rolled up the old carpet, BAM now I need a deck. What I thought was a solid deck to start with turns out to be rotted. I knew the piece in the rear had to be replace but now looking at it the rest is starting to show signs around the edge, And I read thats where it starts. Im on a very tight budget so dont go expecting some extreme fiberglass/composite deck. I think the fiesta's come with a fiberglass deck so Im not sure where this wood came from. I do know whomever put it on used regular steel tapping screws and now all the heads are corroded and screws are rusted. This ought to be fun trying to remove.. Anybody have a link to show how to get them out? Or do I have to grind the heads off all of them and use channel locks to get the screws out. I have another way but I have to see if it works first before I post it. Anyways guys thanks for a great site and wish me luck. Im going to give myself 3 months to finish it and take her to the Keys in Aug. Pics are to follow soon I promise
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Yep, we try and warn people just because it looks solid, it really isn't. Most decks if exposed will last only 10yrs and that's considered a lifetime warranty in the pontoon boat industry (found that out during a tour of a plant). I did a search for your posts, but evidently it has been a very long time since you posted. Until early last year I purge any posts that hadn't been posted in for over a year and I see you joined in 2009, so its possible it was deleted, but usually I don't, but we did have an accident several months ago where some posts got deleted, so yours must have been one of them. Do you still have pics of the teardown so you could redo the story line?? If you'll post some of those teardown (stages to current) we can move you back into the rebuild area. Just insert a couple pics in your first post here and we'll get it done.

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Lets see If I remember how to post pics . Heres the victim after the last frenzy. Im starting with a FREE toon . I had to build a trailer but I think Im still way ahead in the game.

 

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I would really like to reskin  the railing But Im not sure how Im going to do it yet. I tried the vinyl but It didnt turn out right. These panels are foam core with a aluminum railing around it with an aluminum skin. Id rather not spend over a grand replacing the rails if I can spend a few hundred redoing these. Anybody have any ideas shoot them to me.

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So this is the boat before the teardown right? As for foam core, look at briankinley2004 rebuild as I believe you could use the same technique. If it was me and I had the money, I'd just get a new fence rail kit from PontoonStuff (I did replace the front 16ft of mine with theirs, kept the horseshoes on mine). I'll move your thread back. Have you started the teardown yet?

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I was just re-reading your first post, a lot of those questions are answered in the rebuilds. Look at mine for example on what we did to remove the wood and rusted screws. A grinder will come in handy. Once all the wood is off, remove the rest of the rest of the rusted screws, takes time but the results will be good and you can quickly sand down the area so you'll have a good smooth finish for your rubber gasket that PontoonStuff sends with their deck kit. Since you mentioned the Keys, then I assume you're in Florida??
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I think the grinder with the thin cutting wheel is best for the rusted bolts. You might also be able to get vise grips on them and see what happens.
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 little update, got the deck off after 3 hrs still have to get the screws I had to grind off out

 
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My homade trailer. I still have to do the front bunks or what do you call them? and a winch. This was a quicky to get it over to my house.
 
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Some of the stuff that needs to be updated or replaced.
 
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Overall It has a few dent and dings, But it floats and I'll make it look the best I can. And looking at it now I think I can slide it back further back on the trailer.
 
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Originally posted by DRAGGINZUZU DRAGGINZUZU wrote:

My homade trailer. I still have to do the front bunks or what do you call them? and a winch. This was a quicky to get it over to my house.
 
 
 
You need a winch stand and bow stops. There are one piece units that have both, but can't find a link right now. Just google pontoon boat bow stops (or pontoon boat winch stand)
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Originally posted by DRAGGINZUZU DRAGGINZUZU wrote:

My homade trailer. I still have to do the front bunks or what do you call them? 
 
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I decided to clean the toons while I have the floor off. This is what they started like
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This is where it lead to, Got carried away
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This toon has some weird drip like stuff on it. I think its from when I first got it I cleaned it with fleet bright and maybe didnt wash it off enough?
 
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This is where I got it , Sanding with 220grit, Im trying to smooth it out before the nuvite shows up.
 
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Careful with the sanding, don't get carried away, it'll take you longer to get that shine so you'll need a good bit of F9. The weird drip marks looks like rust from bolts runoff.
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Thats what im worried about, sanding scratches. The drips are raised kinda weird. Looks like something ran down it and turned hard like the aluminum. I havent tried to scratch them off yet. I just tried the fleet bright on it and the really showed up. Ill see if I can get a better shot tomarrow. I only did one small spot on the inside of the log. So if is real hard to polish out I can skip the sanding. But I dont know what else I can do to get it smooth before polish??
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Hard call, but I wouldn't sand unless I absolutely had to. You're there at it but as long as you're using fine grit.
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sanding was fine for me, 200 where i really needed it, but 400 grit everywhere.  made it easier and i used less F9 where i knocked it down with the 400 first.  I'd use the 400 again if i were to ever re-polish them. (someone please slap some sense into me if i ever talk about polishing toons again!!!)

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Looking good - and yes you did get a little "carried away", didn't you? Just a thought, but that angle grinder and 1/16" cutting wheel will take care of the pointed end of those screws too! Worked great on mine anyway.
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