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    Posted: 08/26/2013 at 1:26pm
New to this forum, but have read many of the build threads already.  I stumbled across PS while doing some research for a project that I am considdering.  I currently have a 24' landau pontoon that I have had for a couple of years.  I like the boat but my wife and I are expecting our first child and would like to have some more room and shade for the little one.  I did some shopping around for small houseboats and party huts but found nothing that interested me in my area.  So in a moment of brilliant (stupid) thinking, I decided to build my boat into what I want.  I located another boat that is very similar to mine to use as a donor and plan on using the cross braces and trim and fencing off of it to build the deck.  I will build the frame out of 1 1/2" sq. aluminum.  The plan is for it to be 8' by 12' with six legs supporting it.  One at each corner and one in the middle of each side of the long span.  I will build in some Y braces to stiffen everything up and make it more rigid.  Based on the weight of the tubing and braces, I figure that I can build it to be under 400lbs.  My thinking is that I can cut down my max capacity of my boat by two to compensate for this weight and be alright.  Also, using the donor boat will leave me with the extra logs that I could use to build a center log with a transom later if the boat rides too low in the water.  Anyone ever done this that can offer any advice or comments.  Good or bad, I would like to hear it all.  Sorry for the long post.
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Sounds like a great plan!  The only thing I would change is to add a 3rd log right now!  You won't be sorry...besides the extra capacity, the ride and stability of a tri-toon doesn't compare to a standard toon.  Since I'm sure you're going to keep us updated with tons of pics, I'll leave this topic in the rebuild section Wink
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From what I have read, the handling of the boat will be better if I move the motor back behind the outter logs.  The donor boat that I have is 24' also.  Should I leave the center log full length and add the transom behind it, or shorten the log so that is isn't as far forward as the outters and still move the motor back, or shorten the center log and leave the motor in its current location.  If I move the motor back, I will have to get new control and steering cables.  Also, I have skinned the bottom of my deck. If I add the third log, would stainless steel self tapping screws into the braces be enough to hold it or should I remove the sheeting and bolt through the braces instead?  I guess I could always narrow the sheeting and place it between all of the logs.

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the best option would be to add a full length log even with the front of the others and extend the rear for about 20-24" of motor set back.  How ever, even adding a 3/4 length center tube in front of the existing transom makes a big difference.  A lot of the OEMs offer that in what they call the "sport" package now.  As for attaching the log, you absolutely must through-bolt it to every cross member.  Unfortunately you're going to have to remove the under skin to do it right.  But trust me, you already have the log...that is what most people would kill for.  You will love the difference if you do it!


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Well I ordered the tubing to use for the frame and it should be in today.  Now for some measuring to determine exact placement and see how it will fit around the seats.  Our seats are starting to show their age pretty bad (1993 model) so some of them may get removed, recovered or replaced.  I'll try to get some pics and maybe get them posted if I can figure it out.  I think I'm going to focus on the upper deck first and then look into the tri-toon conversion.  I still have many questions about that one, so it will take some more research.  Wish me luck.

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yes please post progress pics as I am in search of a 24 footer for a doaner. I want a 24 footer cuz I have a 20 footer now and want the third log. I also want the deck cross members and fence to build the upper deck. any recommendations for how high i need to make it. 
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My plan is to make the legs six and a half feet tall.  I am only 5'11" and I don't know anyone over 6'6" that would ever be on my boat.  I also want to keep the overall height of the boat on the trailer below 12' because I will be towing it regularly.
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Well I guess I should post the info on my boat as per the rules.  I am starting with a 1993 Landau 24' that I have had for a couple of years.  The previous owner left it outside uncovered for a while so the interior is getting rough.  After convincing the wife that we can make this boat into what we want for less money than buying another one, I started the conversion.  I finally got all the tubing  for the upper deck cut to length and cleaned on Sunday.  Spent last night at a friend's house welding it up, since I don't have the equiptment to weld aluminum at the house.  Got probably 80% of it completed and the rest is tacked in place and just needs final welding.  It's really looking good.  I have pics on my phone, but I will have to figure out how to post them (not an Iphone).  After reading Liquid Assets's build on his 20 footer, I think I am going to attempt to build my center logs similar to his.  It seams simple and affective.  I can already see this project going overboard, lol.  Hopefully I can get it ready by next summer. 
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Here should be a pic of the deck frame laid out to check my cuts.
 


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Next is my buddy doing his thing with the TIG.
 
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And finally the whole frame welded up with the legs welded on and the Y braces tacked in place.  If you don't get it, turn  your monitor upside down. lol.
 
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I'm hoping that everything works out as I have planned.  So far the measurements are looking great.  I bought 126ft. of tubing for this part of the project and only have a little scrap...
 
 
So far so good.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Here is a pic of the donor boat from a few years back when I use to own it.  I sold it to a friend who threw a rod in it last summer, so the 150 merc that I put on it back then is now toast.  But, the rest of the boat still looks basically the same.
 
 
Not too bad for parts is it?  The interior is removed so it has an open deck.  Nothing but bag chairs and beer coolers on that boat.  If I could only remember all the good times we had...
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I was able to get my donor boat home today and since it has an open deck I couldn't resist putting the upperdeck frame on it to see how it will look.
 
 
 
This isn't the boat that it will go on in the end but it gives an idea of what I am doing.
 
The structure of the boat is still in very good shape as well as the logs and most of the railing.  The trailer needs some work where it was jack-knifed and bent the front of it pretty bad.  The logs on it are a couple inches wider than my current boat, but also about an inch and a half shorter.  From what I understand, the center log is best when it sits a little lower in the water than the outter logs.  I guess I'll have to fab up something to take care of that.  It's too bad about the engine.  Anyone know what a 150hp. merc black max with good lower unit, carbs, electronics, controls, power trim, but a golf ball sized hole in the power head is worth?  I'm going to sell it as well as the trailer to off set some of the cost of this project.
 
 
 
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looks great good job!
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Not alot has happened with the upper deck in a few weeks.  When I bought the donor boat back, the deal included a metal carport that my buddy had bought to store the boat under.  Since adding the upper deck to my boat will make it too tall to get in my garage, I decided to built some taller legs to raise the carport up enough to house my boat with the upper deck on it.  That part of the project is done now but didn't take any pics to post, but I will. My family has also grown by one in the past week or so, so most of my time and attention has been with my new son. 
 
 
 
Being a car guy, I had to build the little man his first hot rod and he was kind enough to pose for some pics.  We even got him out to a couple of cruise-ins this weekend since the weather was so nice.  He drew more attention than any of the cars there I think.
 
 
I know this probably isn't the place to post non-boat related pics, but my family is the reason for the pontoon in the first place.  I can't wait to turn him into a river rat, and look forward to many great memories on the boat.  So please excuse the shameless plugs of one very proud poppa.  Maybe next time I will have some more progress pics.
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I might be interested in buying the gates off the donor boat.  Need 27" high.
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There are three gates, one on each side and one on the front.  All three measure right about 27 1/4" top to bottom.  They have the slide hinges that you lift on the gate to latch.  One of them is missing the aluminum bar that hooks into the latch.  I can try to get some pics of them in the next couple of days as it is too dark tonight.  I do not plan on using them, but it may be a few weeks before I get the railing stripped off the boat.  Which gate do you need?  I was hoping to get a couple of short corner rails that go in the front on some pontoons (in front of the railing).  So if anyone has any ideas where I can find some please let me know.
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This is a pic of my boat that I am going to put the upper deck on.
 
 
 
The little rails on the front corners are like what I am looking for.
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Try pontoonspecialists.com part # TR0001
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Robbie I notice the slide out of the way ladder on the side of your boat.  How do you like it?  Do you have a source for it?  My under deck ladder won't fit on my converted tritoon.  Cry
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The ladder works great for boarding the boat.  The only thing that I have to do is tie it in place when pulling the boat on the trailer.  It will vibrate loose if you don't watch it.  Simple fix, but that is my only complaint.  As for a source, it came with my boat and appears that if may have been factory.
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That ladder used to be distributed under the name Saf-T-Ladder or some thing like that.  It's claim to fame was self storing, and can be stowed from in the water (that one is debatable).  I'm not sure if they are still available any where or not.

 
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Thanks for the info.  Saw what appeared to be a manufacturer and one for sale on Ebay previously.  Other than that nothing anywhere on the Safe-T-Ladder.   Still prefer my old under deck but tritoon  tubes too close to allow installation.  I think a tritoon with 8'6" deck will allow the under deck between two of the tubes.
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I would take all three gates. I will verify dimensions tomorrow.
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Originally posted by p3cflyr p3cflyr wrote:

Thanks for the info.  Saw what appeared to be a manufacturer and one for sale on Ebay previously.  Other than that nothing anywhere on the Safe-T-Ladder.   Still prefer my old under deck but tritoon  tubes too close to allow installation.  I think a tritoon with 8'6" deck will allow the under deck between two of the tubes.


How much room do you have available in between the tubes?


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12 inches at most.  I say at most because it is right at 12 inches between the flanges of my U-shaped tubes.
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Ah, yes...I wasn't thinking about the extra space you gain with round logs.


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