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Interesting stuff, thanks for the link.
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Well Bass Pro called this weekend and my new motor came in. They are waiting on the controls/cables and should be ready this week. I have the fencing re-done and am talking to a guy about skinning the "hut" part with aluminum for the walls so I can continue with the project. It has slowed waaay down since the days got short and duck season opened. I hope to get the 90HP off next week and ready for Charles to pick up. If it goes real good I plan on mounting the new motor as well but bet I wind up replacing the transom plywood. Has anyone used the composite plywood sold on this site for a transom?? I would probably have to double it but figured it would not rot and I should be able to glue it together. I have 4 sheets left and need to incorporate them into the rebuild. I may use them on the roof but will have to add a bunch of supports which would cost as much as 2 of the sheets of composite. I plan on posting more pics once I get the motor on and/or walls up
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Brian,

I am very interested in your project!  On this forum you will find a link to my 1992 Party Cruiser project that I"ve been working on for the last couple of years.  Long term I plan on replacing the decking in the bow section (ahead of the cabin) and on the top deck.  But in my case I plan on going with an aluminum extrusion like LockDry.

What I am really interested in is your approach on replacing the cabin walls.  This is a somewhat immediate project for me, as I am completely fed-up with the original SunTracker material.  I have looked at a lot of different materials, various laminations, and have considered making my own.  I"d love to see where you go with your "skinning".

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Well I went to Bass Pro today and picked up the new 115HP Opti Max. I am now starting to work on removing the 90HP so Charles can pick it up later this month. Still not sure about using the composite material for the transom but I feel like I will have to replace it. Scott I am not sure about the walls myself. I am not having any luck getting the guy that does the aluminum skin to come look so I am thinking of other options. I saw your boat on another site and your having the same problem I am. I am getting excited about getting mine going but still have alot of work to do before this spring
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Brian,

Well, I have come up with a solution for my walls, and it might be of interest to you.

Parkland plastics makes a product called Insulex, which is a plastic/foam/plastic composite.  Normally the nominal thickness for this product is 1.16", which would be too thick for our aluminum extrusions.... but they have said that they can do some custom panels that will end up at 1" thick.

I am ordering 14 panels (giving me a couple of spares in case I make the anticipated mistakes), and I am going to make a sincere effort to install them over this winter shutdown.

Another option is to use their DuroTherm product... which comes in 7/16" thicknesses and can be ordered through Menards and other "big-box" outlets.  If you laminate two of those panels together you will end up with a 7/8" panel, which can be made to work in our situation.

If you are interested in the Insulex, just let me know.  I can hook you up with my contact at Parkalnd.


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Hey Scott I am very interested in both. What is the approximate cost and lead times? I looked at an interlocking 12" wide panel from Durashield?? that was going to be great but wound up weighing 3 pounds per LF and cost was over 100 bucks for a 12"x8ft. piece. I am assuming your product is lighter than that.
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Guys, be sure to indicate inches or feet, as the forum software can"t make the distinction with a single or double quotation marks, it"ll translate a double quotation mark for inches into feet. That way anyone reading won"t be confused with your figures.
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Originally posted by briankinley2004 briankinley2004 wrote:

Hey Scott I am very interested in both. What is the approximate cost and lead times? I looked at an interlocking 12" wide panel from Durashield?? that was going to be great but wound up weighing 3 pounds per LF and cost was over 100 bucks for a 12"x8ft. piece. I am assuming your product is lighter than that.


Hmmm... I hadn"t even looked at the Durashield product.  I do a lot of business with Strongwell and I"m confident that I could probably get a good deal on that stuff, but as you mentioned... it"s going to be heavy.  That"s just the nature of pulltruded fiberglass products.  And even a "good deal" on Durashield will probably be substantially more expensive than what I am looking at.

The Insulex is quite light.  According to my calculations it will be under 20 lbs per 4x8 (foot) panel!

Lead times are looking to be about 2-3 weeks, and the initial estimate was that the panel cost would be about $55/ea shipped.  I"m waiting fora hard quote so I can issue a P.O., and I hope to have that by the end of the week.  I can give you updated numbers once they are finalized.
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That sounds like a pretty good price Scott especially for a finished panel and custom at that. You can PM or email me with contact info. if you like. Charles I forgot about the glitch on the measurements. I almost have the motor ready to pull of and hope to get it ready this weekend. I am trying to label the cables, etc so hopefully it wont be as bad putting it back.
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No worries there, I"ll figure it out, manual I bought seems pretty good.
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Got the rotten transom finished today and was worried about the motor fitting the boat as the installation guide said the motor needed 33 in. clear at the transom. The way mine was built it stepped up and was only about 22 but there were holes cut in the sides for the steering arm, etc. I decided to lift the motor up to the boat and see what kind of mess I had on my hands. When I got the motor in place and checked the mounting height, etc. I found the old holes for the Johnson matched up perfectly with new Mercury. I went ahead and drilled the new transom material, the bolts fell right in and I decided what the heck. The motor is now bolted to the boat. The only issue I see is the new motor has a chase that all the control wires, etc. come thru. This protrudes out and hits the corner of the transom when the motor turns hard to the port. I think I am going to grind the corner out as there is already a hole cut there for the steering arm. If I dont modify this I will not be able to turn the motor to the left completely (to turn right). I have along way to go to finish this project but feel like I have reached a major milestone and there is no turning back now.



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Ahhh motor looks lovely doesn"t it , don"t forget to update your signature line now.
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After tossing around all kind of options and waiting for results I got impatient and decided to do myself what I was going to pay someone to do. This seems to be the most logical and simplest method for me to enclose the cabin. We started at 10 am this am and by 4:30 had this framing sitting on the boat deck. Only bad moment was when I went to turn on the lights and I had blown them out by hooking them to 220V. My shed only has 120V to it and the welder I borrowed was 240V. I switched the breakers in the house and wired the welder to my camper plug which was 110V but 30amp. Well I forgot to turn the light switch off and it fed 240 to the flourescent lights. This is why I don"t have a pic of the frame on the boat as it was dark when I backed it back under the shed. I found some skin for the exterior from our local portable building place which I plan to put on the exterior then rivet paneling on the interior. The frame is built of 16ga. x 3/4" tubing which is suprisingly light. Two guys lifted the entire frame up to the edge of the pontoon while me and my youngest son grabbed it and set it in place. It probably weighs less than 200#. I plan to put a 3/4" rigid foam core between the skins. I also found some RV windows on e-bay which were much cheaper than buying them new. I did not get the exact sizes I wanted but they are close and I don"t have the passenger side front window yet. Also I have to come up with a 30" x 72" storm or glass door somewhere for the front and the back doors. The back door will have to swing in as well which will present some challenges. Here are a couple of pictures

 

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Brian,

Wow!  Nice work!  Is that framing material aluminum or steel?
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The material is 3/4" 16 ga. ( i think its 14 but sold as 16) steel tubing. It is suprisingly light. Two men (one on each short end) lifted it on to my trailered boat which was probably 5" to the deck. The other two of us picked it up and set it in place. Im guessing 200#. I don"t have my steel bible with me but it took 13 stalks of 24" long tubing with maybe 10-15" of short waste pieces. I may pull my manual out at the office tomorrow and get a rough calculation of weight but it can"t weigh a whole lot more than aluminum. I plan on using the aluminum top framing that was originally on the boat

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Scott, you"re too late on the 90hp. I already picked it up the 22nd. Brian offered it to me last month or so when a local person in my area reneged on a 90hp deal a few months ago. I fixed him up with 3 computers for it to replace his aging Windows 98 machine. He lives near Monroe, LA way out in the woods about 20 or so miles from there but he"s got a nice setup at the house. He could hunt right from his back porch

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Thanks for the answer Charles. I have been at the camp since Christmas without internet. By the way the new computers are great and I have installed wireless internet cards in the kids. The only thing I have run into so far was the sound card for the one (which I got installed without a hitch)and the other (one with wires out of back) did not have a working USB port. I bought a 5 slot PCI/USB card and got that going. Thanks for all the work you did customizing everything for us. It was great to meet you and your wife. Hopefully you can get the motor installed soon. If not looks like you have an interested buyer in Scott lol.  I bought the siding for my cabin but can"t seem to quit hunting long enough to do anymore work. If the ducks quit flying I will get back on it!
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They all had working usb ports in the back since I used a usb keyboard and mouse to configure them. Now the front usb ports on that one I probably mis-pinned it. Took the cover off the outboard yesterday and it looks pretty good under there but I"ll fix the cut wires and clean up the splices made as that"s probably why the trim/tilt didn"t work from the console (but does from the motor side). My 3ft OMC to Mercury adapter came in today as did the new spark plug wires (very good ebay purchases) so I"m excited to get going. Will also get new decals so I can start sanding down and cleaning up the motor for a new paint job, new decals and new clear coats for a like new motor look (solid gloss black). Will be removing the Tracker Pro 90 Oil Injected look for a Johnson 90 (black/silver/grey/red colors) look (not original, but looks good) like this decal set. If I can get my buddy to make me a motor stand, I"d work that way, otherwise I"m just going to use my come-along and hoist it into a tree and work on it when the weather gets better in March/April (sure be nice though if I could work on it in the comfort of my garage)
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Boy am I computer challenged. I plugged the mouse and keyboard into the usb ports on that thing and didn"t realize you could get one of those splitters to make them have more USB outlets. I had one and forgot they make those. I pulled up a webpage on pinning those front ones and it was pretty confusing especially since none of the diagrams matched the pins I saw. It was easier on me to just buy that pci card. Is the adapter for your wiring harness or shifter control? Those new decals and a paint job should make that motor look good. I guess your home now and got the motor unloaded OK. Could you rent a hoist like I had and mount it on your boat? That is how I removed it. You would have to have a couple hands to balance it but it should be fairly easy. Then you could work on it with it on the boat.
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Friend of mine that I want to build the motor stand has one in his home garage and one on the back of his personal business work truck (he works for the city like I do, but in the gas department), we swap out work, I work on his wireless and computers in exchange for his and his son-in-law (who also works for the city) for anything I might need. So he"s off this week, I"ll call him tomorrow and see if he can fix me up a stand pretty quick as I"ve only been asking him since last year for one (but his side business has really exploded - good for him but bad for me as he"s my fishing buddy too). Yeah, that motherboard is I think a spinoff from MSI and there"s no pinout for that particular model, so I had printed out like 3 other motherboard manufacturers that produced motherboards for to get the pinout that finally worked. Didn"t figure you"d actually use the front ports , my bad. I"ll also get him to lift the motor tomorrow so I can get the hood back off that get that model number I need so bad.  Oh and I could probably get a couple of bud"s to actually go ahead and mount it, but didn"t want to bother with it now until I actually got it cleaned and prepped for running. The adapter is just for the electrics part, I"ll have to get different (universal) cables to go from the controls to the Johnson for shifting and gears but mine has what appears (didn"t look REAL hard yet) the same motor control ends (universal).
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Brian - Guess what? That motor WAS NOT a 90 horsepower and definitely not made in 1989. So it was quite an amusement to find out its an 1984 115 horsepower Johnson with a Tracker hood from another motor on it.  Might be older motor, but more HP is always good (I guess)  So I"m betting somebody just got the hood to accomadate their max hp rating on their decal rating. As far as I"m concerned, it still a great trade on my part    There were two numbers on the silver plug on the cylinder head. One was J115TLCRD which shows to be a Johnson (J) 115HP (115), Electric Start, Tilt & Trim (T), 20in Transom (L), made in 1984 (CR) and this model is D (D) for that year. The other number is J5960246 which is the serial number of this motor 



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All I can say is Wow! Actually my toon was rated for a 115HP so that would not have been the case. I posted on your other link that the boat and trailer are both 89 models (the are registered as such) so I don"t have a clue what happened there. I would have never thought to check numbers. I hope my new 115 is not a 90 with a 115 hood LOL

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Stranger things have happen but the only thing I can come up with maybe insurance purposes?
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Rob- I do not think I am going to use my canvas/frame however the canvas is in bad shape and has been cut. Provided I don"t use it you are welcome to the frame and whats left of the canvas if you can use it. I am going to PM you when I get closer to the tank racks. Hopefully I can get back on skinning the walls this week and get a roof on it. I will probably do the tank racks later on this spring when it warms up. We are going to Coz in early June and probably won"t dive around here until we get back.
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UndrH2O,

Have you been to Bonaire before?
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Rob I am pretty sure after looking today that I will not be using the old frame/canvas. Let me know how to get it to you. We are actually staying at Casa Del Mar and were unsure of dive ops. Glad to hear something positive about Del Mar Aquatics as we heard on some of the boards they ran cattle boats. We went/stayed with Scuba Club last time and did not have a problem with their boats. We decided on Casa Del Mar because we have some non divers this time and Scuba Club is so dive oriented that they don"t even have TV"s in the rooms. Have you stayed in the cabanas at CDM? That is what we booked. Would love to go to Bonaire and our local dive shop is going in July to Divi Flamingo but don"t know if we can swing both trips. We have a son that dives so we have to multiply everything by 3! We got a great deal to Coz with airfare and the cabana room being $600 per person excluding diving.

I just got done with about 2/3 of the paneling on inside of the boat and wife has been cutting styrofoam to put for insulation. Got to go back to camp tonite for one last duck hunt. Hopefully I can get pictures posted before I go if not I will get some up this week for sure.

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Originally posted by undrh2o undrh2o wrote:

Hey Scottbee!

I have been to Bonaire a couple of times, as recently as last August. Always a great time and lots of diving!

Have you been?


No.. not personally, but I"ve been invited quite a few times.

I"ve got an old friend who made a killing back in the 90"s via a software company that he founded and ultimately sold.  He took his "winnings" and moved the family down to Bonaire so he could enjoy his diving "hobby" (passion).  I believe he is quite well known down in those parts.

His name is Jake Richter.  Ever heard of him?


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That"s the guy who does this technology blog I occassionaly view http://blog.richterscale.org/ (part of my job to keep up with technology) and I"ve viewed his bio http://www.bonaireinsider.com/JakeRichter-Bio.html, interesting fella.
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