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    Posted: 07/24/2008 at 11:38pm
I recently bought a 89 or 90 model Party Hut with trailer that needs major overhaul. Basically I paid the cost of the trailer for a 2008 model for the entire package. The engine supposedly ran on the 4th but I did not witness this. I plan on sticking with the original layout except I would like to enclose the entire area now under roof and not just the bath/kitchen. The furniture was removed from the front and judging from the stains on the 3 pontoons only the back 1/4 or so was sitting in the water. Since we are going to use this for diving/fishing/camping the plan is to leave the front deck open for the first 2 and enclosing the back for the last. I have located some grey composite 5/4 decking on closeout for 10 bucks a 12" piece at a local store. I plan on putting this on the front 12" open deck area to add some weight for the missing furniture and to offset the new 110HP motor to replace the 90HP. We really like the color and non-slip texture and do not want carpet anywhere. We are thinking of putting 3/4" plywood with marine vinyl on the rest of the floor. Any suggestions? I am going to buy the composite anyway due to the price and the need to build a dock in my pond should it not work on the boat. We do plan on adding a small bench in the center to suit up for diving or storage. Also when diving we will have 4-6 tanks in the front but not when fishing. Also I am having a hard time locating a replacement canvas for the rear of the hut. I recently re-did an old 74 model pop-up camper and found a factory replacement canvas that ran about 900 for the entire camper. I could probably get the pop up people to make me one for the Party Hut but it would be nice to find the original to replace this with. I have searched alot online and cannot find anyone who offers this for pontoons. Does anyone know of a source for replacement canvas/tent or should I consult with the pop up camper guys??
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I plan to post pictures ASAP. I cannot start this project until I finish a shed (hopefully this weekend) to park the pop up in.(Party hut has re-located everything) I plan to take the pictures this weekend and hopefully post them!!

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This was taken on the day we purchased it. It looks good from a distance but up close the floor is rotten and most everything is worn, needs new furniture, etc.

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Wow, what a difference distance makes. I like the paint scheme though, noticed the big chip, but if you could get a chip to take to get a paint match, it"d be real pretty again. Motor needs some tlc on the outside, but should clean up nice. That window though, umm, don"t know about that. But you know what you"ve got and should do just fine, as the guys and gals will certainly help you.
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Yep glad I didn"t buy this one on Ebay! Most of the corners are banged up and I plan on a total strip down and rebuild. Will probably replace the fencing. Can probably buy new vinyl for what I will get for the scrap aluminum on the old fence. I may try to rework the engine. Supposedly it runs and of course would like to keep it but I bought this thing planning to make it "like new". Will probably start with a compression check and go from there. My biggest obstacle so far is the tent in back. Maybe I should try the dealer for a replacement. I like the flexiblility of being able to let it down but I can probably hard side a cabin of some kind for the price of the fabric. Bought enough Veranda comosite decking today to do the front deck for just under 200 bucks(on clearance). May go composite sheeting with vinyl on the back 2/3 but if I find weight is not a problem may buy some more Veranda to do the whole deck in it. If I can get this thing going and reliable for 10K on top of what I paid for it I would be thrilled. Of course I would like to add an a/c and small generator. I am pretty handy and own a construction company so I hope my skills and contacts help make this project come through. If it doesn"t I have a heck of a boat dock for my move to the lake LOL!!!
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Looks like a great project, I always wanted to build a "camper for the water".  Keep us posted with the pics and glad to have you aboard the forum!!
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Dealer sounds like a good place to find that hard to find prioperity stuff and definity like the AC idea (I hate being HOT  but yet I live in the South where its almost always humid). Also like those rear-view mirrors. Reminds me when I use to drive tractor trailers for a couple years.
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Would love to see some finished pics of your boat as we will be diving from ours as well. We are going to begin the tear down tomorrow.
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One concern I would have with the composite decking is weight.  That stuff is very heavy.  I would check the weight of it versus plywood.  Composite decking is also not usually rated for structure and decking on a Pontoon boat helps stiffen up the entire structure of the boat.Welcome to the forum and good luck with your project.
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OK I have been thinking this composite thing over for several weeks. I got 19 pieces on closeout for 10 bucks each. This is enough to do the front 12 feet from the cabin to the bow. I plan to enclose the rest and wanted something slip resistant and washable in the front. The composite does that and 200 bucks is cheaper than just the marine plywood. I searched online for the weight of the Veranda 0.9"x5.2"x12" planks and could find nothing so I simply weighed one. It is almost 30#. I did some simple math which I hope is right and (allowing for the 1/4" gap) came up with a weight of 5.5#/SF. Right now there is no furniture in the front and I plan to keep it that way. Judging from the water line it looks like it sits low in the back although it has 3 pontoons. Well here is the unscientific results of my study

1) The original weight of the front flooring for a 12x8" section with furniture was 429#. I used 2#/SF for the plywood and 0.2#/SF for the carpet. The furniture layout was assumed (from pictures of other similar boats) to be a lounger section on each side of the boat. The new ones from pontoonstuff similar would weight 218# according to their listed weight. (This is where I got plywood & carpet weights as well)

2) The new weight of the composite plank decking would be 528# without furniture (which is how I plan to keep it). This means I would be adding 101# to the front of the boat.

3) If I use the composite plywood with carpet (dont really want carpet) on the back 112SF of the boat instead of marine plywood I would deduct 84# from the original weight as the composite weighs in at 1.25#/SF instead of 2.0# This would leave me with a net gain of 17# going with the composite plank/plywood combination. I also found out when we removed the plywood ceiling assembly today it is very heavy. If I can put composite plywood back here it would help with the weight.

Based on the above I think I will go ahead with the Veranda decking. It may make the front a little heavier than original but I think it will be workable. If not I will just change it out later. Undrh2o I also will have to deal with tanks, etc. but probably wont have but 4 divers and maybe 10 tanks. Glad to hear it did not mess with your height in the water as that was my major concern. The only time I would want speed would be an emergency or something.Dahogman you are correct on the structural. I will need to add some supports as the planks are only rated for 16" centers and my ribs are on 20-24".

Sorry to bore everyone with the numbers but I searched all over for weights on this stuff and couldn"t come up with anything. I had heard on another site about decking with Brazilian Ipe wood which I think would look awesome but it is heavier than composite. Also it would need to be restained periodically.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions and if you have any other ideas or concerns with my plans let me know as this is my first pontoon boat as well as rebuild of one. We got the rails and roof off today and hope to be polishing the toons next weekend!

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  Can"t tell from the pictures or seen anywhere on the posts. But is your boat underskined? If not I"d be conserned about water issues. If you leave a gap between planks there will be a lot of water intrusion. If your boat is underskined this is no issue proceed.

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No it is not underskinned. I have a roll of geotech filter/fabric membrane left over from a job I am thinking about installing under the decking. It is light weight and semi-permeable. I think it would allow standing water to drain but keep splashing water out. It is real similar to the stuff used under RV"s and mobile homes but more durable. We use it under rock for road beds. My other thought was visqueen or 30# felt but the visqueen would probably deteriorate and the felt would have seams which would probably eventually get torn, etc. I know it would be easier to just plywood and vinyl it but I really want a deck look on the front. The Veranda is gray in color and other than its width would look similar to a boat deck and is non-slip.
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  I know of the filter fabric you are speaking of that is some tough stuff. Eats utility knife blades real quick don"t it. It would work for certain be a bit hard to get dirt and debris out of though. Another thing to consider on the cabin part is the amount of water the center toon throws out. You"ll think the river is flowing over the outside toons. I bought one for a parts boat and ran it once at speed to try motor and was amazed at the amount of water. Suggest you use conduit to protect wires etc. from chaffing from this action. The boat I bought didn"t have it and the wiring and splices showed it. Be  careful about any holes you need to put in floor to. Thats how I discovered above is because my feet were getting wet.

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Thanks for the heads up on the water Bamby. I will be using a solid floor on the cabin area but that is where most of the penetrations are! I like the conduit idea. I"m thinking the grey PVC would blend best with the aluminum. I have seen the galvanized EMT rust over and over so I don"t think I will go that route and rigid would probably weigh too much. Right now the wires are just run above the toons and I think thats how the manufacturer did it. They look to be in bad shape and needs re-wiring. Gettincaught.. I would love to see a picture of your boat. I want to enclose the back fully but have been going against it lately as I am not sure how I would tie up at the dock as well as access the motor for repairs should a breakdown occur in the water. The existing fold down canvas allows me to sleep back there but can quickly be let down to use the back of the boat for docking, etc.

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  This is a peacemeal partyhut / crest boat that I"m doing. As you can see space can be easily left for good usage. The original floorplan had two gates one one each side each apx. 24ins. Originally had bimini on back just like yours. Maybe the above pictures will give you some ideas.

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What length is that? I"m not sure I could fit all that on mine. Its the same in the back as you said and also has 2 side gates. How big is the enclosed portion? What kind of floorplan does it have. I wish I could get mine to sleep 4 but not sure how to arrange that. Does yours do OK on the water. I wanted to use wood to frame my walls in but was afraid it may be too heavy.

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  The cabin on it is 8x16 ft. on mine. Top picture is how cabin looked as we rec"d boat. You can see waterline as to how it set in water for we used it as a camper last summer. The pre-existing cabin was framed of 1 1/2 in. wood and I replaced with ripped treated 2x4"s. Found yard that carried no. 1 kilned after treatment and they are a lot lighter than reg. treated. You may want to downsize yours a bit though. There is no floorplan on mine that was part of the fun. The pre-ex floor plan did not work for us. It can be done though but finding the right materals at least here is a pain. You have to put a lot ot thought into what you want or need and some graph paper and move it around to make it fit. You could probably make something that would work if you put your mind to it.

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OK we got the boat stripped to the frame and are ready to clean the toons. I did the most redneck thing I have done in the last 2 weeks today. Got to thinking about all the cribbing and jacks I would need to jack this thing up to drive out from under it. Well I just backed up to two trees and tied each side to a tree and drove out from under it (slowly of course) Well the trailer is so tall but I was hoping with the boats length the middle would be close to the ground by the time I got to the front. WRONG! Had to get the tractor and gin pole to raise the front off the trailer so we could come on out without dropping the boat. I think when I get the trailer re-done and toons cleaned I will bring my backhoe home and use it to help raise the boat on the trailer. Here are pictures of a redneck moment!

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Redneck moments, right up my alley!!  Looks like a cool project, can"t wait to see some more pics. 
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Well got the coil cleaner done and then put Brasso on toons and buffed clean with a buffing pad on a grinder. This cleaned them good but left scratch marks. Got a #6 polishing stick and a cloth polising wheel for the grinder and started on the mirror shine. Should be done tomorrow and will post more pics then but here is a start.



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Thanks CJ. We have decided to hard top/side the back by moving everything forward 2 feet and put bunks in the back 6". We will still have the option of putting this enclosure on it though and will hang on to this information you have given us in case we do. This is good to know because I searched along time online and never found anyone who made this although there are some pop up camper companies I suspect that could if they had the old pattern.
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Well finally got the stripped down toon back on the trailer today and out of the yard where I can mow (You might be a redneck if you cut your grass and find a pontoon boat!). We loaded it with the backhoe and all went well but it was a tense 10 minutes. The sharkhide is on and hopefully I can get some aluminum stock this week so I can decrease the joist spacing for the decking. Here are some pics.

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Well after nearly a month and dealing with record rains from 2 hurricanes I finally got the extra supports added as well as the decking and vinyl flooring. Here are some pics. I am now fighting mosquitoes and trying to paint the fencing. Hopefully I can get it on in the next couple of weeks but teal season has opened and we have a spearfishing trip coming up. I was hoping to get this done before hunting season but looks like I will be on it all winter now. PS went to bass pro in Shreveport Saturday ahead of the storm (very few people there) and got a Pontoon 35 anchor winch and some miscellaneous items for the boat.

PS the vinyl I used is not a marine grade. I am hoping since it will be in the enclosed portion of my pontoon it will work. It should stay dry and out of the sunlight. We did use a waterproof glue from Henry. It seems to be sticking well.

 

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Also if anyone would like to see all the pics we have online for this project this is the link

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/14/2008 at 11:50pm

I really like your photo album/journal. Shows just how it all came together and the progress you"ve made. I think the vinyl will be fine inside, since it"s the UV rays that harm it most. Thanks for the update and keep um" coming..

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