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Thanks, got it. Now I can`t reply. Hit reply, nothing. Confused
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We are enjoying this so much that we have a totally new plan. Instead of restoring this one, using it a couple of years, and then buying a new one, we are now doing a cheap fix on this one (just to last through this Summer). Between now and the Fall, we are looking for another boat, 18 or 19ft, with good pontoons, that we can spend the Winter restoring with everything from Pontoon Stuff (already have my shopping list started). Here are a few pictures so far (by shop light). We had to use dishsoap and a rubber mallet, to get the carpet and flooring to co-operate.
 
 
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We still have about 1/4 of the inside skin to scrub, fasten the chairs down and build a helm (before this next weekend).
 
 
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We plan on replacing the skin when our first rainy weekend comes along. We also need to order a bimini top.
 
 
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It still looks a whole lot better. But somehow we missed the floor laying ceremony. I saw it stripped and now with floor, carpet and seats on it - but hey, looks like a plan in progress plus you know now what you guys want and what to look for.
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Originally posted by Wildcat Dude Wildcat Dude wrote:

It still looks a whole lot better. But somehow we missed the floor laying ceremony. I saw it stripped and now with floor, carpet and seats on it - but hey, looks like a plan in progress plus you know now what you guys want and what to look for.
Sorry about that! But at 4am Sleepy, pictures were not on my mind. I`ll do better next time around. We used 3/4 treated for the floor. We would have prefered composite or marine grade but for one Summer we couldn`t justify the cost. Yeah! We definately know what we want now, my wish list is is looooong LOL.
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nice!

I'm thinking the same...hmmm..this was fun, i'd like to do another like this....
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Thanks Rick, The treated plywood was a concern. My hubby thinks it will be ok for this one Summer. Lets hope so! We will keep a close eye on it though.
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Alot of the treaters are getting away from ACQ's too and there are some borate based processes out there being used that are suitable for contact with aluminum. Would be luck of the draw. Best way to know is look on the treatment tag which should be on the edge of the plywood somewhere. I had an ACQ treated board on my kicker motor bracket last fall. Went to pull the motor off this spring and the board had bonded to the aluminum on both the bracket and motor. Almost broke the handle off loosening it. Once I got it off I knew why. The board had corroded the aluminum and had bonded to it.
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I used the borate treated  plywood on my rebuild as did one other forum member. I made sure I used the tape from PS before fastening it done to the cross members. I was very pleased with it as there were no voids anywhere & for the price I just couldn't turn it down. At $17.85 a sheet along with a 10 yr warranty I didn't  bat an eye. I was allowed to "hand pick" the sheets I wanted too. Since I am going to under skin the pontoon I believe it will last for a long time. Most likely outlast me at the rate I'm going these days. LOL No one in my area even sold the "REAL" marine plywood so I decided to go with the borate treated instead. So far so good. 
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Originally posted by briankinley2004 briankinley2004 wrote:

Alot of the treaters are getting away from ACQ's too and there are some borate based processes out there being used that are suitable for contact with aluminum. Would be luck of the draw. Best way to know is look on the treatment tag which should be on the edge of the plywood somewhere. I had an ACQ treated board on my kicker motor bracket last fall. Went to pull the motor off this spring and the board had bonded to the aluminum on both the bracket and motor. Almost broke the handle off loosening it. Once I got it off I knew why. The board had corroded the aluminum and had bonded to it.
I looked around the yard and found a tag off the end. Unfortunately the only thing I can make out is "Atlanta Georgia, Lifetime Limited.......UC38......   Purchased it at Lowes, so I`ll give them a call. As far as the next owner, as with everything else, it will be passed to one of the kids. They are all putting hints out already LOL.
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If you got it from Lowes then its ACQ (bad for aluminum). I actually ran into one Lowes employee that knew that their treated plywood wasn't meant to be in contact with metal and he passed on good advice.
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If they don't know tell them you want a MSDS sheet on the pressure treatment chemical. By law they are supposed to give you that and it will tell you what treatment was used.
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Originally posted by Wildcat Dude Wildcat Dude wrote:

If you got it from Lowes then its ACQ (bad for aluminum). I actually ran into one Lowes employee that knew that their treated plywood wasn't meant to be in contact with metal and he passed on good advice.
Thanks! We`ll get it off there in the fall.
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Originally posted by captain58 captain58 wrote:

 
   hey bo and susan, just caught up with your posts.  welcome to the forum.  looks like you have a good handle on what you want to accomplish.  good luck with your aluminum welding repair.  please do some good research on your aluminum repairman.  there is a world of difference between welding new aluminum and old aluminum.  maybe even a galaxy of difference.  Wink
Thanks for the welcome, we have the aluminum but have not had the welding done yet. We spoke to a former employer of the welder we are going to use, he informed us that this guy is the best he had ever employed when it came to aluminum (20yrs and only deals with aluminum). Now that our plans have changed and we are only need this boat until the Winter, we may not even bother repairing the pontoons.
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Woohoo !!!!!! It floats Clap. So excited I forgot to take the camera. Took the boat to the Lake yesterday. The weather was gorgous, fish weren`t hungry, but that didn`t matter, we had a blast. We are sold! Pontoons are no doubt the way to go, when it comes to fishing and relaxing. We do need a new steering wheel, this one is way to small. Are they universal? Could one of you guys please jump in and let me know what we need to look for ? We are also going to replace the throttle cable. I didn`t like the rods laying around on the floor so I`m going to be spending the next few days looking at threads for ideas. Also cup holders.  Susan.

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I have very long rods, so I didn't have room for them until I put the new console on, so now I think I have room for my 7+ foot rods and even though this one is designed for overhead, I think it'll work just fine for a wall mount. As for the steering wheel, not sure of universal but a lot of them are 3/4 in taper units. You could if you wanted to, buy another wheel and use it until you decide its time to sell the boat you have, take the new wheel off and put that small wheel back on if you want.
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Steering wheels come in different diameters. Just have to look around and see what will fit your personal preference. I just got this one from PontoonStuff and it's a little larger than my old one. Even being slightly larger makes turning a bit faster and seems easier. Like WD said, make sure you get one that fits a 3/4" tapered shaft. To take the old wheel off, back the steering shaft nut off until it's just even with the end of the theads (This will protect the threads when you smack it). Have someone pull hard on the wheel while you smack the end of the shaft with a hammer. Should pop right off after a couple of firm hits. For storing fishing rods I use the one in the pic below. But it only holds 4 rods, so if you have alot of them it may not be for you. It's very easy to use though. You can find them at this place.
 
 
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ooooh! thats the look we (or at least I LOL) are looking for. I really like those, low profile and neat looking. Even a drink holder. We would need several though. Thanks again, Susan.

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HI Bo & Susan-
I am so happy for you that your boat floats!  That must be a relief... I can't wait to get mine going!  I am wondering about your seats... the bench seats that you have there... is that something else other than boat furniture?  Is there storage underneath that?
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I might be crazy but they look like plastic garden benches with storage. Kinda like this one from the Depot
 
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Originally posted by shamrock shamrock wrote:

HI Bo & Susan-
I am so happy for you that your boat floats!  That must be a relief... I can't wait to get mine going!  I am wondering about your seats... the bench seats that you have there... is that something else other than boat furniture?  Is there storage underneath that?
  These bench seats came with the boat(I believe the have RUBBER MAID stamped inside them). A little clorex cleaner and they cleaned up and work great, ample storage. We only use the swivel seats up front but my 87 year old mother likes the bench seats. Susan.
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Well it took a while but we found our dream boat and are leaving in a few minutes to go pick up it up. 18ft U shape pontoons. Taking the camera as I want pics of how we found it LOL. Guess I`ll be starting a new thread tonight.
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what happened to this boat? Thought you was in the middle of rebuilding it?
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what happened to this boat? Thought you was in the middle of rebuilding it?
Hi there, Finished it enough to use it. Will post pics tomorrow. We`ve had company from England for 6 weeks, so haven`t been hanging out online. He left yesterday. So we`ll have more time to work on and post regular with this new boat. Susan.
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So you're done rebuilding this one and starting a new one right?
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Yes Charles, we are using this one now, as is, We picked half of the new one up tonight and will get the rest tomorrow. We are digging pieces out from under bushes, poison ivy and dirt. From the looks of the pieces we have managed to find so far, this looks to be the keeper for us. Susan.
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