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    Posted: 04/06/2011 at 7:17pm
Well the time is almost upon us to get this all said and done (meaning the snow is almost melted and the ice is down to 2' on the lakes) Clap  So... last year, the girlfriend and I bought a 25 foot long '91 Crest III with a 2006 suzuki 60 4 stroke, and trailer.  Used it all last summer to do some fishing and cruising, then put her away with the intensions of doing a complete rebuild this year.  We will be redoing the entire boat from the crossmembers on up.  Here's what we are starting with:
 
 
 
 
 
As you can see, it's had a hard life in the Northwoods, so it was a quick call to Pontoon Stuff (man, do they have FAST shipping!!), and here's what came in the mail:
 
 
on the left is 6 sheets of 3/4in CCA marine grade plywood.  In front of that is a 15 watt solar charger for the batteries. Stereo, Faria gauges, carpet kit, and blue boat cover complete the purchase.     sooooo.... now all I have to do is wait one week for the snow to melt, and it will be on to the teardown....WOOHOO!
 
***added spacing between pics to give it the best view***


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Wow it looks like you are all ready to hit the ground running. I know exactly what it is like to wait all winter for nice weather to show up again. It looks like you found a great project boat there. Just old enough for a rebuild but powered by a much newer motor. Good luck on your project and keep us posted !
 
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yep, can't wait to get started.  Gotta go to Jacksonville, Fl on Fri for a Monday delivery, then it's on home for a wedding on Fri.  Then during the following week I'll see if the snow has melted enough to get this party started!
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Seems to me you don't have enough sheets - if you toon is 25 feet, what's the deck length and is all the supports on 16 in centers??? If not, you'll end up having to cut a board or two to fit and then you'll be short one board. Lot of times guys use the extra sheet pieces to make a new transom mounting board with (2 or 3 layers glued together). 6 sheets will do a 24ft boat IF all the centers are the same. I know on my 20ft they were NOT. Normally a 20ft would take 5 sheets, mine took 6, we used the cut piece for the transom. 
 
Your fence looks in really good shape and the wheel is pretty. That corner seat took a real beating (from critters???) compared to the other seats. Looking forward to progress of the teardown.  Be sure to read up on how to remove the steering wheel, cables, controls, steering box etc - and I bet you have already haven't ya Thumbs Up
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Looks like an excellent project boat and a good start of materials. Good luck on the rebuild!
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i just love that fence...looks like much of it just needs to be cleaned up.

any plans for it (painting, polishing, etc?)

Steering wheel is awesome too, i'd stick a suicide knob on it just because...

lots of boxes...new seats?  I'm jealous!
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Have an alum transom, so we're good to go there.  Deck length is 24', hopefully I will have enough wood.  If not, Menards (a hardward store) is 2 min. away.  No plans for the fence as of yet.  Thought of a repaint and restripe... we'll see once we get it off as we'll have about 5 days to let the glue dry on the deck.  And yes, those boxes (all 11 of them) are new furniture Thumbs Up
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Still 2' of ice? Ouch! I hope its gone by Fishing opener! As i will be up that way then! I am orginally from Mellen, Just south of Ashland...
 
Down here by lacrosse, ice is gone, snow is gone.. and my lawn is turning green!
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ice should be gone by next week.  will be in the low 50's all next week Cool 
 
stupid question:  on my switch panel my nav/anch switch when i switch it to the nav side my nav lights will come on.  what should happen when i switch it to the other side
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so when I have it set to nav, the rear white and front red/green will be on.  and when i switch it to anchor, just the rear white will be on?
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So, we finally had a day without snow, rain, or wind....so let's get this sucker started!!
 
got the rails off without much trouble, and the mold/lichen was so thick, I was thinking about using a Bio secure suit to remove the furniture...
 
 
 
 
the furniture is the original stuff from '91, made out of 3/4in plywood, rotted out, heavy  ugly.  Removal of the old, and off to the dump she goes...
 
 
 
 
got THAT taken care of, and everything stripped down to the floor...
 
 
 
 
time to get out the circular saw and take care of those floor boards.... and here's what we're left with...
 
 
 
 
and as for those stubborn bolts that just don't seem to want to let go of the cross beams, I've got just the tool...
 
 
so now all I have left is some bio hazzard wood to bury...
 
 
On Tues, the weather is supposed to be above 50 degrees and sunny, so we'll be able to get the wood on and the carpet glued down


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Nice progress. Definitely time to do what you just did!
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question:  on our crossmembers, there was some rubber weatherstripping used to cushion the wood as it sits atop the crossmembers. I am going to use the rubber that came with the redeck kit for the joints between the plywood.  should I put some weatherstripping back down on the crossmembers like they originally came with, or is it just a waste of time?
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Now is the time to work on those toons while you got everything stripped off - unless you're just in a hurry to get back on the water. Wink
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want to get the rebuild finished, and we'll see if we have any time to do the toons
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I think as long as you put rubber or something down at the joints you are good to go
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it should be where the wood meets together on the crossmembers

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   Wow it looks like you knocked that tear down out of the park LOL Just seeing that bare toon gives me so many ideas. It's like a blank canvas !!! It looks like your moving right along. Keep it up and you'll be back on the water before then weathers even ready for boating !!!
 
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Your progress looks great! Gotta feel good now that all the old stuff is gone and you can start looking forward to the new. Nice job!!Thumbs Up
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Some fast work there.  Many new members are concerned about the effort and skills needed to do what you've started.  They are reluctant to start.  How long did it take you to do the tear down today, and how many doing the work?  Question  May help new folks take the plunge.

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I know when I did mine with scbadiver, it took us almost 2 full days to completely strip it. At the end of day 2, we put lumber on and carpet to let it dry overnight. What does the transom look like?
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I started the teardown at 8:30 am on Sat morning.  Had the thing down to the floor n carpet by 11:30 am.  Had to stop it there due to rain and the dump was closing at 12:30 and I wanted the furniture GONE!  Started again Sun morning, and it only took me about 2 hours to get the wood off. 
 
I kinda knew that this was gonna be a pretty easy job, as I was gettin rid of EVERYTHING and replacing it all with brand new from P.S.  So once you get yourself into that Dr. Destroy mode, and just start rippin stuff out without much reguard to life and limb, you'll be good to go Thumbs Up
 
Went under the boat with the ratchet and 7/16th and undid almost all the bolts holding the deck on (some just spun due to the wood being rotten), about 40 in all.  Then I took the circular saw and cut each piece in half to make it easier to lift.  They all came off pretty easy after that.  Some of them I had to wiggle a bit, but it was so easy to do once I got the hang of it, I would tell anyone that you can do this yourself! 
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on our toon, Crest uses some heavy duty C channel for mounting the deck , so when ripping the wood off, I really didn't  have to worry too much 'bout bending metal
 
 
I would tell ANYONE that you can do this yourself!!  Read ALL of the rebuild posts to see what other members have gone thru, where they have had thier problems, and plan for yours, and things will go pretty smooth.  AND ALWAYS ASK OUR MEMBERS QUESTIONS!!!  Thumbs Up  One person might not know the answer, but someone else sure will (see my post below). 
 
I plan on getting the deck and carpet down on Tues (when the temps get above 50) and the furniture n stuff mounted by Fri.  I do have the problem with the fence rails in that I don't know if i want to paint or replace the aluminum.  Painting would be cheaper, but also more time consuming and I have to go back to work here soon.
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Now, as for the electronics.... the one area I'm gonna have a problem with is the tach.  I will be switching ove to a Faria tach from the Suzuki one.  The Suzuki has these wires going into the back of it:
 
 
can anyone tell me which wire does what?
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And it was only me doing the teardown, so if anyone wants to know how hard it is....it's not!!  Just have a few tools on hand:
 
socket set
screwdrivers
drill n bits
circular saw
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wrench set (a ratcheting wrench really shines here... and if you don't have one...BONUS!  you get to go get a new tool!! Thumbs Up)
 
That's it. no special skills, just common sense and a few days of good weather
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(Suzuki wiring is a bit different)
 
Yellow goes to the "S" terminal
Gray goes to the "I" terminal
 Black to "G" or "Negative" terminal
You can jump from one of the other gauges for the backlight (Normally a blue wire)
Tach setting will be "6".
 


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Also, that one might be the Suzuki version of a "system check" tach. If it still works, I would keep it, as it should have built-in warning lights for temp, oil and over-rev.
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That's what I was thinking too since his is a newer motor. What does the front of it look like??
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here's the front side...
 
 
looks like the other wires are for the warning lights.
 
question:  can I disconnect the other wires and/or cap them without any problems?
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