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Picked up some sound dampening foam thats suppose to be top notch.  I will wrap the generator case with it before I slide the cabinet and counter over it.  Should keep it pretty quite when its running. Thanks Audition Audio in Cumming GA.  

 


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This is one of the pontoons I harvested from a dead boat.  About to cut the back 4' off to weld onto my 32' to make it a 36'.

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I can tell by your waterline that your stern was sitting pretty low.... but be forewarned, adding these extensions will also bring your bow down a little bit. It was a somewhat unexpected byproduct of the mod that I didn't fully anticipate. When you load the bow with people you will discover that it will be more common for you to take water over the bow in rolling and rough seas.

With the layout of the PC it's really common to have everybody at the bow and no body ballast at the stern.... and moving your center of bouyancy back a couple of feet just makes the bow want to dig in a bit more.

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I am on to electrical.  Here is my wiring diagram.  Can anyone give me the name of the switches I need to order.  I know the rocker single pole for lights and radio, and the reversing switch for thruster deployment and thruster forward and reverse.  What is the switch called that is off, then I hold it down to start the generator, and once started, it goes to the neutral position, then to turn it off, I hold it in the opposite position, then it goes back to neutral once off?  Am I missing anything?

 
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If memory serves me correctly, that switch is a DPDT, MOM-OFF-MOM (Momentary, Off, Momentary)

And I believe that switch has an independent 12V light circuit.


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Is this reversing switch what I am looking for to deploy the thruster actuators and bring them back?  Can I also use this for the thruster motors themselves to run in forward and reverse?  It is a

Toggle Reversing Switch — 30 Amp Maintained Contacts, Model# SWT-TOG-4WQuestion

 

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You mentioned that you had some sort of safety mechanism so that the thrusters were not deployed and forgotten about and then the boat driven with the thrusters in the down position.  With my wife using the boat occasionally, I really need a dummy proof system so that this doesn't happen.  I would love some sort of little beeping noise to be constantly sounding whenever the actuators were in the down position, but I have no idea how to do that or even where to start looking for that type of switch.  Any advise would be appreciated.  
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I used two 6 poles toggle switches, one for the actuator and the other for the motor. The pic below's wiring is to attain the up/down or forward/reverse control.

https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/wzZpEsGN9zmgX2lU3r7cEA--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9NDA2O3E9OTU7dz01NTM-/http://www.12volt-travel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/6_terminal_Toggle_Diagram.gif

 

 I wired a "dash" light indicator that lights up when the actuator is in the full down position.

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Originally posted by Morganh Morganh wrote:

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You mentioned that you had some sort of safety mechanism so that the thrusters were not deployed and forgotten about and then the boat driven with the thrusters in the down position.  With my wife using the boat occasionally, I really need a dummy proof system so that this doesn't happen.  I would love some sort of little beeping noise to be constantly sounding whenever the actuators were in the down position, but I have no idea how to do that or even where to start looking for that type of switch.  Any advise would be appreciated.  

I don't have an interlock that stops you from driving the boat when they are down.  It is sometimes necessary to do both at the same time to navigate tight moorings.

I do have an interlock that stops the actual thruster motors from running unless they are deployed.

I also have indicator lights on my dash that indicate when either the thrusters or hydraulic ladders are "down".  Those are "true position" indicators, and I did them with waterproof magnetic reed switches and panel LED indicators.

My thruster motors are driven by 30+A contactors (relays) and that allows me to use the low-current bang-bang joysticks on the dash.  The deployment actuators are pneumatic, so those are driven by pneumatic solenoids connected to regular dash rockers.
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Thanks Blocker.  I will dig in and make sure mine are operated similarly so that I am not constantly blowing fuses.
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Finished the skins and rails Saturday.  The modified rails to create the stern walk out for swim deck is coming out nicely. My wife (she's an awesome decorator Big smile), picked out one of those new woven fiber floorings that looks like teak.  Its pretty sweet.  Ill post pics shortly.

Took it to the welder today to get the pontoon extensions welded on.  When I got there,  I showed him a spot on the transom, where the wood insert was disintegrating a bit, and the weld around the transom trey had torn a little.  We ripped the motor off, then the old transom plate and wood, and welded a couple of pieces of aluminum rectangle  into the plates bolt spots. We then bolted the motor back on.   





We then started putting the extensions on.  I had cut the ends of the donor boat's pontoons, then cleaned up the cuts and weld areas, and they were ready to go.



We leveled them and tacked them in, ............ start welding.  He will pressure test with smoke when he's done, and Ill pick up the boat tomorrow afternoon.
  


He is going to weld the donor boats aluminum floor joists across the new extensions to give me a floor frame. Shout out to Jim with McKenzie Metal Works in Buford, GA for the good work.  This guy can make anything out of aluminum.  

 I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.  Got a certified letter from the HOA today.  It gave me 30 days to have the boat out of the driveway, or a $25 / day fine.  Don't you love the retirees that have nothing better to do?Ouch  I gotta bust my XXX to get this thing done or I will be finishing her while she floats.
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Are you going to move the motor back also? That is why I hate HOA. Why did you choose the pointed tubes instead of the flat ones for the back?


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No, not moving the motor back. The swim platform will walk around the motor.  

I didnt choose pointed back tubes, it was the only donor boat I could find at a reasonable price with large enough diameter tubes.  It will also give me that little bit of extra buoyancy.  I paid $700 for the donor boat, and got the tubes and all the rails and floor trim etc.   A single tube on line was $800 plus another $500 shipping so I would have been $2100 into tubes only and had to buy the other extras.  
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I think replacing the wood in the transom with the aluminum channel was a wise choice.  If you end up getting vibration or resonance due to the change, there are motor isolation pads that you can install to cut that down dramatically.

Leaving the transom and engine where it is hasn't caused me much grief.....  the only real drawback being an increase in the minimum turning radius.  Low speed handling is a little "wonky", but it's always been wonky.... now it's just wonkier.  LOL
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Pontoon extensions completed, and swim deck floor bracing installed.  Decking, floor covering, and trim next.

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No plans to tilt the engine up... for prop access and the like?
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That is an excellant point Blocker.  I need to think on that.  I might hinge the back two floor joists, and the wood floor, so that it will flip over from Starboard to Port.  Then I can tilt as much as needed.
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You don't need to make your own thruster... if you have $2800 lying around!!  Wacko

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Cant spend $2800.  Here is my new thruster deployment system.  It is obviously laying psidedown for modification purposes, but I finally got it where I want it.  Install motor and mount next.


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Originally posted by Morganh Morganh wrote:

That is an excellant point Blocker.  I need to think on that.  I might hinge the back two floor joists, and the wood floor, so that it will flip over from Starboard to Port.  Then I can tilt as much as needed.

This feature has saved my bacon a time or two....


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I am thrilled with the new wallk out and swim platform.  Wife says its the best improvement on the boat.  New thrusters, new skins, new walls, new seats, and new stereo, and she likes the swim deck.






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Trying to figure out some graphics now.  She looks clean like this, but I think some graphics either just on the white, or bleeding onto the black might look good.  What say you?
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A little 90 day before and after photo.  


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Great looking boat and restoration. Thank you for sharing the build and for posting so many pictures for the rest of the forum addicts like myself. 

I am in the same boat (ha ha) as you on the graphics. I am considering posting some pictures on 99designs (google) and letting the world work on the project. 

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On your galley,did you build it your self or is it a mold .Nice job.
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This is a picture of his amazing galley:



And a shot of mine:



Nothing "molded" on those.

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So sorry for the late reply.  Havent been on here in a while.  I love the 99designs idea, but wow, its a bit expensive.  $500 for a great design (most probably), then to print and post it will easily be another $1000, and that's wholesale because I own a billboard company and can get printing and application at cost.  Still, $1500 for graphics hurts my pocket.  Still torn.
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All of the new work created a new issue, that Blocker warned me about, and now I must fix.  

After adding 4' to the back toons, it gave me more than enough floatation to compensate for the new swim platform, the new 4 stroke motor, and the granite counter top in the galley.  It added so much buoyancy, that now when I put 4 people in the bow, while under way on a weekend day and other larger boats are running around, a decent size roller can come right through the front door.  This never happened before.

I took her back out of the water, dropped the center toon, and moved her forward as much as I could to add lift to the bow. This helped the problem a little, but still an issue. The only other options I can think of are:

1- drop the middle toon down another 3-5 inches so that it rides roughly 4-5 inches below the side toons to see it this will give the front more lift

2- add some water through the plugs to the new 4' extensions in the back to reduce the buoyancy back there, therefore lifting the bow.  This will hurt my gas mileage and overall speed, but my new 4 stroke Yahama gets unbelievable mileage anyway, and we are a slow cruiser so speed is not an issue.

3- completely remove the center toon, and replace it with a shorter, but larger diameter toon, so that it only adds greater lift to the front.

Any ideas, comments, concerns or advice on any or all of these would be greatly appreciated.  I must get this problem rectified.  Wife is not happy when water comes in and runs across the floor.
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On the galley question, I built it myself, but on the winter re-model, I ripped it back out and used it as firewood while watching the GA / GA Tech game in the driveway.  I had a cabinet company then make me a new one, with new stone counter tops, and it looks awsome. I will post some new pics.
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