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Yeah BS I think I may just beat you!!!I have 4 weeks left supposed to launch May 25th....Wacko
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I just got a quote back from the fab shop that was going to bend up my material for my motor pod, fuel tank and new deck edging.  Keep in mind that all the are doing is supplying the material and bending it.....$1275 plus taxesShocked. Unless I can come up with another plan, it looks like I will be staying with what I have. If I throw in another $600 I could have a 3rd pontoon.
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We were at Bass Pro over the weekend, and I was looking at the new SunTrackers, and their engine mount with fuel tank is really, really nice, the mount is all aluminum, the gas tank appeared to be quite large. I thought about seeing if that is a direct order part(s) and what the price would be.
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Originally posted by TheBalls TheBalls wrote:

We were at Bass Pro over the weekend, and I was looking at the new SunTrackers, and their engine mount with fuel tank is really, really nice, the mount is all aluminum, the gas tank appeared to be quite large. I thought about seeing if that is a direct order part(s) and what the price would be.
 
Thats the boat that I got my measurements for mine, my buddy's suntracker. Looks like I will be keeping my old set up.


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Ok after the initial shock of the quote wore off I got around to thinking of a plan "B", which was originaly plan "A". Instead of building a whole complete 10 foot motor pod with built in gas tank, I will just add a couple feet onto the existing motor pod and build the tank into it. It will be alot less material($$$) and work.
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I finally had some time to take some pictures of what I have been up to. It's not much but I have been tight on time. I got all the threaded bungs and the front mounts off of the pontoons and have all the patches made and ready to weld on. The patches aren't polished yet thats why they are a different color. I polished the area where the patches will go with my 5" orbital sander with 150 grit and it took the oxidization off real easy. You can see there the front flexing of the deck had actually caused the front mount to dent the pontoon. I have made some saddle pieces that I will weld over the bad part and then weld the mount to the saddle. This will make it much stronger.


This is one of the holes that the bungs were. I put duct tape over them to keep stuff from falling in. I would have took the tape off for the picture but it was FROZEN on.




I made a new bow frame of the boat that I made the original, The old one was made from 1/8" Z bar and was spongy therefor causing the issue with the front mount pictured above. The plywood decking hung over the egde of the old bow frame about 6" and was also spongy. The new frame is made from 2x3x1/8" tubing and will come within 1/2" of the edge of the decking making it alot stronger. It is also longer so that it mounts to the first 2 mount instead of just the first one like the original. I was going to make the bow straight across at the front but decided to keep it original because of the hand rail and the trailer. I just don't want to get into modifying the trailer too. This was my first hand at tig welding so most of the weld are not that pretty but my buddy that was teaching me said that they will be strong welds. I have attached a picture of one of my best welds, I won't show you the rest of them though.LOL

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Best weld. I won't show you my other ones. LOL



Here is a shot of the thermometer this morning. Doesn't look like I will be laying flooring anytime soon. aaarrrgggg.........








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coming along nice. Looks like you have a good welder.
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Originally posted by Barnmb7117 Barnmb7117 wrote:

coming along nice. Looks like you have a good welder.

The welding machine that I used is my buddy's, he has his own welding shop and buys nothing but the best for equipment. I did the welding but believe me the rest of the welds don't look like that. I just got extremely lucky with that one.
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coming along nicely!!! I feel you on the cruddy weather thing!
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I will be ordering stuff tomorrow from pontoonstuff and once I get it things will move along fairly quickly, I hope. I will also be picking up the marine plywood early next week.
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*inappropriate language not permitted* just get some astroturf and roll with it,  The ladies love some artificial grass under the feetBig smile
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Great job on the welding bstomper....Looks better than new....Place you order and get ready for the FedEX man!!
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Well the pontoonstuff order has been placed, vinyl flooring kit, docking lights, wiring harness, and a few other odds and ends. Can't wait to go pick it up. Been doing a bit more on the boat also. I removed the motor mount plate on the pod. I am going to initiate "motor pod plan B" LOL. Instead of a whole new pod  I am going to add 30" to the back of the the existing one to make more room for the custom fuel tank. This will be much cheaper. 



One of the places where the toons are leaking. I will have to clean it good and weld it up

This is the line where I will cut the pod and weld on the 30" section. The line is very faint and hard to see


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You have talent my friend....If I could weld like you I would be dangerous...LOL
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Well got the quote back from the fab shop for the motor pod "plan B" material. It's still way more than what I want to pay so I guess it's "plan C" timeConfused, reinforce the existing motor pod and leave the old gas tank where it was originaly and build a cover for it to hide it and act as a seat. Man, the "doing part" is so much easier that the "planning part". But at least I know what I am doing now (I thinkConfused). I recieved an email from the border service company confirming the delivery of my order from pontoonstuff. It showed up there on thursday. WOW, I only ordered it on last friday. I am impressed. I will be heading down to pick it up on the 15th. Looking forward to getting it home and continuing with the build. I have been quite busy for the last couple weeks and haven't had time to work in the boat. I have way too many projects on the go. The wife came home with all new interior doors for the house and insisted on having them installed, so I didAngry. I didn't have anywhere to store them any way so I figured I may as well just do it. I also figured that I would change the fluids in my Polaris RZR and found a few issues with it that had to be fixed. Also had to go out of town to a firefighter confrence on my last days off, and the list goes on....... It will be awhile untill I can use the boat any way, there is still ice on the lakes and the overnight temperatures are still dipping below freezing, it was -6 celcius last night. This winter just keeps holding on.

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You are doing such a nice job on the frame. Wish I had your welding skills.Clap
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Well I am sitting in a hotel room now in Minot ND and going to pick up my stuff that was shipped from pontoonstuff. It will be just like Christmas, I can't wait to get home and start to put my boat back together.
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OK, I have a bit of a delema now. I just got back from picking up all of my stuff that I ordered from PS and another pontoon boat supplier. Everything is there and in great shape. I had ordered a console from a different place because I like the size and shape better that the ones from PS (sorry PS). The console is built to accept a binnacle control, mine is not a binnacle control. I thought that I would just build something so that I could use my existing  control (pictured below). The problem is, now looking at a few boats with the binnacle control, the cables and wires are all hidden neatly in the console and as you can see in the picture below, mine are not. The original plan was to mount it somehow to the where the binnacle control is to go or the keep it mounted in a simmilar way that it is mounted in the picture, just alot neater, and place all of my switches where the binnacle is suposed to go. I have priced out a new binnacle control localy and it is $570, so that is not going to happen. What other options do I have to use the existing control and have it look neat without the cables and wires seen all over the place. I was thinking if I place the control close enough to the console so that the gauge wires can be hidden where they enter the console, then I would only have the 2 throttle cables which might not look too bad. What do you think. The plywood nounting bracket will definatly go and I will place a custom made peice of aluminum.  I will get some pictures of the console tonight after work.
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Here is the console





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Love the console....man that thing is big...I don't really know how your controls are made, but some you can reverse everything depending on which side you want to mount....check ebay for top mount contols, I have seen then for around $200 and you could probaly get close to that for yours....close to an even trade....your console is so wide, side mount may not be an option!!
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Yes it is a big console. I wanted it big with storage underneath because I don't want any tables so that there is lots of deck space, oh and it has beverage holdersWink. I think I have it figured out so that I can use my existing control. I was playing around with it last night before bed and came up with an idea. I will make a plate to mount to the right side of the console where the binnacle control is suppose to go and then have it run up so that I can mount the control to it. The control is flat on the bottom and will sit on the flat area of the console where the binnacle is suposed to mount to. The wires and be routed to the right side and enter the console just below the control and will be hidden. The wires and mount plate will be hidden because they will be on the right side and the console will be next to the railing. The throttle control/shifting cables will still be seen somewhat, as you can see in the pictures in the post above, because they come out the back, but I will be able to take them directly to the floor close to the railing so that they are out of the way. This will save the hassle and money of buying a new control and selling my old one. I will take some pictures of what I am talking about when I get home tonight.

This is starting to get frustrating. Life keeps getting in the way of this build. I have been out of town for the last 3 sets of days off and I will also be heading out again for my next set.Angry. All I can do for now is a few hours after work. Fishing season is here and I need my boat!!!!! At least I have my 16 foot for back up, but I don't think there will be much fishing until I get this boat done.  


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Since I don't have a lot of time to work on the boat except for short spans, I don't want to set up for the welding until I can get a full day because I have to take it to my buddy's shop to do the welding, so I am working on the console and figuring out where everything is going to go. I just ordered my fishfinder and will mount it in the dash along with the only gauge pod that the engine has (rpm and engine diagnostics). I will also try and find a way so that I can install my Garmin Montana 650 gps  into the dash so it can still be easily removed. I am also going to work on all the wiring that will be in the console area. I will be instaling the fuse panel  but don't know what size of power and ground wire I should run from the battery to the panel. I will have led nav lights, docking lights, fishfinder, 4 12"LED strip lights under the seats, stereo, gps and a few 12v acc plugs. I want to go with 2 batteries. One specificly for starting and the other to run all the other stuff. so I have a few questions
 
1. What size power and ground wires should I run to my fuse panel
2. How do I wire in the 2 batteries in the configuration that I want
3. Will I need a batery switch/isolator 
 
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Bstomper the wiring harness you bought from PS has the wires to run from battery bank to panel....unless you are running a large radio amp those wires will be fine...if running 2 batteries IMO I would have a switch they Are fairly simple...I got the package deal from ezacdc, it comes with everything you need...check out my post tommorrow and there will be photos of mine installed or somewhat installed....lol... Now I am running an amp and ran 6 gauge to my helm from battery bank with terminal blocks these are just for radio/amp system
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Thanks fat daddy. That's all I am running, no big amp so the harness will do. I just opened the harness up and I see what you are talking about. This is the progress on the console so far, thanks to my little helper. Not much but there is more "planning" than "doing" for this kind of stuff. Once my fish finder gets here I can finish the dash and the console will be done.




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I saw this on another fabrication forum and was inpressed with the fab skills of these guys so I thought I would share it. Can't understand a word but the video is cool
 
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