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    Posted: 02/13/2014 at 5:02pm
Well after lurking here and a couple of encouraging post to some members that I read their threads I'm starting my own for my 'toon build.

I had a decent lil bass boat with a Johnson 88spl on it and it was great but the front office said it sat to low in the water and was not stable enough for her. Long story short no more bass boat.

I was looking at a Lowe 204, I think, and when I finally had the money to buy it the guy sold it the day before. After several weeks of surfing CL I found a listing for a 24' Lowe and the guy said he was open to trades. I offered up my F350 flatbed that I had not driven in over a year, a rough farm truck mind you and he was interested in looking and sent me these pics.





He explained that he had trashed the furnature for obvious reasons.

The last pic is how in looked when I towed it home in June 2013.

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The previous owner said he had the motor looked at by a dealer nearby and the water pump replaced. I checked the compression and had an equal 120psi on all cylinders.

Placing the propulsion on hold 'til I got the deck in order I proceded to strip the railing and carpet. 1st problem arises here, the capt's pedestal screws spin and won't loosen. Here's a look at the deck and new carpet.





I ended up cutting the carpet around the pedestal. The delamination of the plywood at the front was the worst of the deck, I replaced only what was weak/bad and laid the carpet.

Sorry Pontoon Stuff the carpet came from a friend with a carpet store here locally, I had yet to find the website pontoonstuff.com.
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nice! keep the pics coming!
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A look at the deck now covered in the new carpet and the rails back on.



Well the rails were sitting on there anyway. Gotta keep a broom handy as I have way to many pecan trees and pecan tassles can stain.

The console is in need of attention and as can be seen in these pics has been rednecked 'til I get new furniture.





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(I had yet to find the website pontoonstuff.com.) It is very easy to find.  WWW.pontoonstuff.com
I go here all the time without any problems.
Is that MARINE carpet?
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Great pics! I have some cases full of cassettes I'll sell you!!
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Barnmb what I meant was when I got the carpet I had not yet found pontoon stuff.com

As for the carpet I don't think it's marine carpet but it did have a moisture barrier backing.   The carpet was some leftovers from a poolside carpet job, if it can handle pool water, lake/river water shouldn't be a prob.

Curtiscapk save your cassettes I'll send you the stereo in a few weeks when I get my new stuff ordered and in from pontoonsuff.com

I'm waiting on color samples to come in before I order.
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Seeing as I'm at the house now and the only internet I can get where I live is on my phone I can't get pics posted of some of the other stuff I got done already, I'll ask for some ideas!

I have a vro engine and I've read all the poop about keep/delete and the problems etc. I decided to reconnect the oil injection but found a problem. When I pump gas to the engine via the primer bulb gas sprays from all over the pump assembly. I priced a new vro pump to replace it and OUCH that thing must be pure unobtainium. Over $500 for a pump I don't pay that for a diesel injection pump on an idi Diesel engine.

So the question is does anyone know of a bolt on regular pump for a Johnson 60vro?

I'm sure it's been done I just don't want a rednecked job to make it work.

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can't help you on the pump, but are you sure you want to put it on instead of premixing??
 
My pump was already off of my Merc. I would rather know for sure there was oil getting to the engine than hoping. At least for an older one like mine (94).
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Wow... I have a brand new VRO pump sitting in a box in the garage.  Had no idea it was worth that kind of $$$!  Makes me want to pull it out and see what P/N it is (I believe there are three different configurations).

I'm a pretty big fan of the Evinrude/Johnson VRO system  Unlike some competitive units, at least it has some feedback capability and will sound an alarm if it thinks it is not pumping. 
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Curtis my plan is to go back with a regular pump NOT a vro pump.   I trust the vro system if it's maintained but I'm not going to spend $500 for a fuel pump I can mix a lot of gas for that amount and spend more time and money on the water.

Blocker if you do have a pump and don't need it put rhar thing on one of the many site available to be auctioned off. It would provide some coin for your awesome little, well ok not so little, project.
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Time for some more history on what has been done.

After getting the carpet and railing back on I focused on the engine, first thing I noticed was it was sagging bad. Here's what I found a bad engine pod...





No wonder right!

Well after trying to find a replacement for less than I had in the boat I found a guy that repaired pontoon boats, and had him weld it up and beef it up. Dummy me I didn't take pics of the welded up pod but once it was reinstalled and engine hung back in place it was as solid as a rock.
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So here are a couple of pics of it in the current state.







The trolling motor and black box are not fastened down yet playing with the best locations. The black box is a plywood box I made and coated in gatorhyde bedliner for a live well its worked well in several boats now, a little ice and some water and fish stay alive.
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Now I just have to find a fuel pump that will replace the VRO pump and i'll be set. Of course I'm still trying to decide which seating group to order from PS.

As for the fencing, I'm thinking scraping the decals off and covering with sign vinyl then doing a decal package on top of that.
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i have a 90hp that had vro on it,it went out so i removed pump and plugged off crankcase port and installed a electric fuel pump.it has run great for a year and a half now.although i did have to reset idle speed.because idle was to high.i now pre-mix no problems.also don't use primer bulb either, turn key on listen to pump then crank.
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Fishanstube I like that idea but my fear would be an engine fire that would be fueled by an electric fuel pump that didn't stop pumping when the engine died.

Most people probably wouldn't think in this direction, but I had a old bow rider with an old Johnson seahorse on it that backfired died and caught fire. We survived the fire the engine didn't. And the sore arms I had from paddling back I don't ever want to experience again.
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i understand your concern,that's why mine is wired hot side to key switch and the ground is wired through the safety kill switch.if either is disconnected the pump shuts off.
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forgot to mention has relay on ground side.don't really know how it's done a electrician friend done it for me.
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forgot to mention has relay on ground side.don't really know how it's done electrician friend did for me.
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Found a local marine repair shop that sold me the parts to put the engine on a regular pump, and that's complete. Had to tube all the fuel lines while in there, lots of dry rot.

On the topside placed an order this morning for my rear seating group and a couple of fishing seats and some other goodies from pontoon stuff. CAN'T WAIT!!!

Now I have a week or two to make any little changes before the goodies get here and I get it ready for the lake.

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Curtis you may be right!!!

I got an email last night that my order had shipped. I just ordered it yesterday morning. WOW, Ty and the guys at PS are sure on top of stuff.

On another note, looking for the right GPS/locator (with down imagine) to go on the boat and I'm leaning toward a Lowrance Elite 5/7 HDI. this model comes with the down imaging built in and you don't have to add a module. Does anyone have a PS console with a locator mounted in it, not on it? Thinking about mounting in the console right above the steering wheel if there's enough room.

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Originally posted by Jcarr Jcarr wrote:

Curtis you may be right!!!

I got an email last night that my order had shipped. I just ordered it yesterday morning. WOW, Ty and the guys at PS are sure on top of stuff.

On another note, looking for the right GPS/locator (with down imagine) to go on the boat and I'm leaning toward a Lowrance Elite 5/7 HDI. this model comes with the down imaging built in and you don't have to add a module. Does anyone have a PS console with a locator mounted in it, not on it? Thinking about mounting in the console right above the steering wheel if there's enough room.
 
If it is the base console, you will have to contend with the console rounding to the top.  I was going to put my RPM guage right above the steering wheel with the volt/hour guages to either side of it.  I found that the guage would not fit flat toward the top of it, so I am moving it to the right with both of my switch panels on the left side.
 
 
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The console has a flat mounting spot for a FF. I mounted mine there but still have to trim my windshield down. Ty made a bracket for his to extend it out I found something here at work I may use as well so I don't have to trim anymore than I already have.
 
 
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Looking at the pic of the console, the basic console, I does look as though it rounds toward the top. Sooooooo, I guess its either off to one side or screw it to the top, but I really want it in the console.

I'll have to go back and look but someone posted a pic of a basic console with a PS switch panel mounted to the left of the wheel. I wonder how it would look mounted to the right? Might be a bit crowded with the binnacle controls mounted there.

Guess I'll just have to want 'til it gets here and then mock it up somehow.
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Ok first of all the disclaimer....

this is NOT my pic I snagged from Fatdaddy's 89 Sylvan rebuild thread.

This is kind of what I'd like to have but looking at this pic and the fact that I have binnacle controls, I don't see it happening.



So I guess I'm top mounting it!

Maybe mount it kind of between the middle two cup holders?

Man now I'm depressed I wanted to flush mount the GPS.
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OOPS wrong console...OuchOuchOuchOuchOuchOuch
 
Sounds like a good idea though!
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No worries Curtis I wasn't real discriptive with my post.
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Tracked my order looks like I'll receive it tomorrow.

Bad news is I won't have time for any 'toon work 'til the weekend.

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