Pontoon Forum Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Show Off Your Pontoon Boat > Pontoon Boat Rebuild Projects
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - 1981 Playbuoy Admiral Std rebuild
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

1981 Playbuoy Admiral Std rebuild

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123>
Author
Message
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/31/2013 at 9:57pm
Ok. 1st of all i have been cruising craigslist for a 9.9 to mount to my boat so I can hit leesville lake, clendening lake, and peidmont lake. I live in eastern central ohio just so you all know. today I purchased (from in my opinion a kid that really had no idea what he had) what appears to be a 95 evinrude. I tried to look up the model numbers but can make complete sence of them. It has electric start, pull start, long shaft, and looks to be in great shape. I tried to pull start it at home today and couldnt get it running. I thought I was going to have to take it in to the shop, but then realized the ignition wires to the electric start was touching each other. as soon as I sperated all the wires she fired right up and purred like a kitten. I still cant believe i got this for 100 bucks.



shes a little dirty on the outside, but she runs great.. heres the inside. great shape.



So I got all the sides on tonight and had to move it so that we could mow underneath it. I like the black. I think it turned out acceptable.



heres a picture of the old console. This should tell you why I had to replace it.




here is a picture from the back. I have some touching up to do with the black paint, but it looks pretty good I think. What do you guys think?



I still have to jack it up, get the new top, do some wiring on the trailer. (i think just zip tie wire to the frame that looks to be sagging), add graphics and my OH#, and wire some additional lighting and i think shes ready for the lake. also i'm looking to swap out the 9.9 and 25 (35 w/25 cover) easily. wondering if I should just get another throttle and gear shifter and wire and keep steering and cut and make watertight plug in connections for the ignitions or just run new? I htought of making the 9.9 kicker but it sure looks like a lot of work and pretty pricy for my budget.

let me know what you think!! dont be shy!
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/31/2013 at 10:01pm
Oh. here is the model number on the 9.9 motor. If you could help me decipher the numbers it could help me out.





1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/31/2013 at 10:32pm
also. I've searched and searched. The fuel connection is designed for a short connector to the fuel tank. My fuel tanks have the longer fuel connection. Bascially the connector I have doesnt click in so it wants to pop off. Can anyone help me find the new part? I'm struggling. 
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
bluefoot View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/07/2013
Location: Ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 32
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bluefoot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/01/2013 at 3:00pm
I'm over in Steubenville. Not too far away. We like Tappan and Salt Fork Lake. Clendening is great for fishing.
-Clyde
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/01/2013 at 7:31pm
wow. Small world. I live in Malvern, but the boat is just outside of bergholz right now. I've been to Tappan many many times and while its a great lake and all its just too busy and fast paced for me. I think im gonna try my luck with the big musky. Leesville is one of the best in Ohio and im 20 minutes from it. I take it you have a big motor? I think Berlin has 399hp limit also. I've been there a lot. Another nice lake for fast boating.
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
fatdaddy View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 03/12/2013
Location: Whitesburg, GA
Status: Offline
Points: 357
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote fatdaddy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/02/2013 at 8:16am
Keith Winders
Whitesburg, GA
My 1989 SYLVAN REBUILD
24 Footer
88HP Johnson
CHILLIN' THE MOST!
Back to Top
fxbill View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/24/2013
Location: Atlanta Ga
Status: Offline
Points: 63
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote fxbill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/02/2013 at 10:49am
Your engine is a 1995 Evinrude 2 stroke and you can find the parts breakdown on this page..... Don't buy parts from them though.....they have the worst reputation on the web!
http://www.boats.net/parts/search/BRP/EVINRUDE/1995/E10RELEOE/parts.html


Edited by fxbill - 06/02/2013 at 11:10am
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/02/2013 at 3:54pm
thanks everyone. I got the part I need, however im not sure if its going to be the same exact part I have or a different one. The fuel connector on the motor is shorter than the fuel connector on the tank so the silver clip on the tank connector won't latch in. Has anyone else had this problem?
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/03/2013 at 5:18pm
I want everyone to know that this project that im found is only the beginning. Im honestly trying to put the least amount of money into it as possible so I can sell it to buy a different pontoon. The pontoons on this boat sit so low in the water and are all dented up and I just dont have the fabrication tools to do it.
my major plan is to find a pontoon with bigger diameter pontoons so it sits higher in the water. As you can see on the pontoons i have the water marks from where it sits is 3/4 under the water.
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/06/2013 at 1:20pm
I have a problem with my 35el79A that maybe someone can help me with. I posted this on another thread and felt bad about trying to steal his topics.
 
johnson 35hp 1979. I'll be running it and hit full speed and sometimes the engine will rev real high like its slipped out of gear. as soon as I lower it back to 75% throttle its fine. I talked with some fellows on another site and they suggested the clutch dog was possibly bad.
 
I'm wondering if this is a trim problem or I perhaps dont have the motor low enough in the water? I get a lot of splashback from the front of my pontoon. At full speed I can soak the deck its so bad. I dont have electric trim and its only 35hp and I have tried the motor in different trim positions which didnt really help the splash back or the revving of the engine at full speed. Would depth os the engine be an issue? You can see in the pictures how deep the motor is. If you tell me its the clutch dog, ill fix it, if you think it could be depth or trim i'll work on that.. please help..
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/06/2013 at 8:09pm
another question to add to the above problem.
I haven't jacked up the toons yet and im hoping my leak is just a broken weld, but on the bottom of my pontoons I have what looks to be an angle iron welded the whole length of the toon. Is this normal for pontoons?
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
PS-Guy View Drop Down
INACTIVE
INACTIVE
Avatar
Senior Admin.

Joined: 12/02/2008
Location: Elkhart IN
Status: Offline
Points: 2009
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote PS-Guy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/07/2013 at 9:19am
To answer your first question, it sounds to me like you are experiencing cavitation.  The fact that you are getting water over the front reinforces that.  Make sure your motor is as low as it can go, and make sure your trim pin is as close to the transom as possible.  You might still need to shift weight to the rear of the boat.  For your second question, that is called the Keel and yes, every pontoon has them.  They protect the toons when placed on land, and help the boat to track straight while underway.


Feel free to contact me for help on your project!

Pontoon Seats
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/07/2013 at 11:04am

Thanks PS guy. That makes me much happier hearing that could be the issue. I will be launching it next week if everything goes according to plan. If you look at the above pictures I posted on this page of the rear of the boat you can see I have plenty of room to cut the transom down. I will make the adjustments and see what happens.

 
I'll be jacking the toons up shortly and checking for leaks on the keel welds. Other than re welding or soldering is there a type of putty I could use on the aluminium? any recommendations? I suppose I could soldre it with some of that sluminium soldering stuff I was told about in this thread earlier, but I was hoping to get a putty of some sort. solderign or welding i guess will be my best bet probably since that area i'm checking constantly rubs on the trailer.
 
I would also like to thank kylesredapple. His design has me rethinking my whole pontoon idea. As an avid fisherman myself (i do a lot of trolling) i'm thinking of remounting my rails to put my extention in the front. The only issue with that is i'm goint ot have holes in my decking and carpet where my trolling motor sits now. i'm going to get this cavitation solved 1st before I do anything like add weight to the front of the boat. and I am also going to need to add some weight to the back as well. the fillet station and water hose is an excellent idea and i'm going to be saving some money for that. i'm not positive it will happen this season, but this could be a great winter project for me. i'll probably have to buy new carpet or fill the holes and find something like a swivel seat or furniture to cover the holes that are where the trolling motor is now..
 
I love this forum... i'm getting more motivated by the day.


Edited by grimmjj - 06/07/2013 at 11:05am
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/07/2013 at 11:26am
Additional question. My 1979 35hp johnson doesnt have what apears to be any type of generator on it. I do have to charge my battery. Is there any easy way or an idea to be able to charge my battery on my boat by running the motor? I dont believe my engine puts any type of charge back into my battery and it is an electric start so i'm curious what kind of products are available if any? I know a lot of larger engines have generators on them. just somethign that crossed my mind and thought someone here might have a creative solution. -
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
nathan View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 03/27/2013
Location: leander,TX
Status: Offline
Points: 288
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nathan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/07/2013 at 2:21pm
solar powered battery charger! we had one on another boat to keep the batteries charged for a trolling motor.
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/08/2013 at 9:39pm
Ok. Earlier I was talking about how I was planning on selling this pontoon and getting a different one because of tube size. I'm thinking about scratching that. I'm beginning to get happier about my boat and have discussed it with the wife and I think i'm going to rebuild it completely with new carpet, new rails, new furniture and make it nice. The 19" logs arent so bad and i constantly see logs on sale on craigslist for 400 dollars so I could add a 3rd log if I really wanted. For about 3 years or so I have used a product called zep-a-lume on my logs to shine them up. Just the other day I discovered that people use it straight and I always deluded it.  I have some before and after pictures of my logs and you tell me what you think. This literally took 45 minutes to do both logs.. This zep-a-lume isnt for the weak though. the crud stinks and will burn your skin, so wear a mask and gloves if you use it.



and after


Here is the other side before


and after.

the poor trailer tire ruins this picture for me, but i'm liking where it's heading





With the help of everyone on this site I was able to hopefully determine my minor engine problem so I decided to cut down the transom.

before


after


This mount is only temporary until I get an aluminium bracket made for the wood on top of the transom. Everything fits, motor turns without hitting the sides so we are in good shape.

Give me your ideas. I'm hopefully taking it out for a test run next tuesday (we'll see) so hopefully I can see if this is the problem with the motor.

also discovered my engine has a magneto and a rectifier to help charge the battery. This will be good to help keep my batter at a decent level.


Edited by grimmjj - 06/09/2013 at 11:05am
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/09/2013 at 9:04am
I'm thinking about purchasing this instead of the railing I have. tell me your thoughts please
 
 
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/09/2013 at 9:07am
I'm also thinking of buying these to add a 3rd log.. whats your thoughts??
 
 
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
bstomper View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 02/12/2013
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 242
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bstomper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/09/2013 at 9:24am
Looks like a good deal to me. If I could find deals like that around here I would be all over the. good luck. Get them before someone else does. Too bad I am not closer to you because I would buy the other log off of you.
1989 Sun Tracker DL21
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/09/2013 at 9:36am
Lol. yeah its a shame. i would assume shipping that would be pretty expensive. i'm sure we could look into it if it came down to that. That guy has been trying to sell those logs for about 6 months. i told him I would buy them at end of summer if no one else does. I just dont have the room for them at the moment.
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/10/2013 at 1:36pm
well... I jacked it up.... Sigh.. The underbelly of the log where the keel is is dented up everywhere. Tell me why on earth someone wouldn't take care of their stuff at least the logs. I can understand dirt, slime, and scum, but to have the amount of dents on the bottom is just ridiclious. I have no idea what to do with the bottom. It looks like I need to coat the whole thing. Sigh.. What a mess.
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/10/2013 at 9:01pm
would there be something I could spray or paint the whole keel area? I. Wondering if bedliner coating or that fles seal would do the trick?
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
bstomper View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 02/12/2013
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 242
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bstomper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/10/2013 at 10:22pm
I hear you about the taking care of your stuff thing, my toons are beat up also. Are the toons leaking, if not I would just leave them the way they are. I am very hesitant to do something like coat the toons. It may look good for awhile but if things start peeling off then you have a complete mess and a whole lot of work in front of you. No one will ever see the bottom of them any way.  I have been thinking about painting my hand rails before I put the new fence panels in but I am not 100% sure I am comfortable with it for that exact same reason. Some guys have done it and it looks awsome, but.........

Edited by bstomper - 06/10/2013 at 10:25pm
1989 Sun Tracker DL21
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/10/2013 at 10:33pm
yes.. Its leaking.. About 10-15 gallons in a 4 day weekend. Not a horrible leak but enough that if I wanted to get a dock next year I can. I tried pressure checking (not real good cause the rain let go on me) and so far I came up with nothing. I know I have a broken weld on the keel as dented up as they are.. It looks lile this pontoon hit the same iceburg the titanic did when you look at the bottom of the logs.
 
My other problem is my trailer has runners under my logs. A challenge and a blessing all in one.. I cant work on my logs because I have a 6" area to look and I have to crawl all around on a trailer under the boat. Its a pain but its got to be done if I want to have a log that doesn't leak.
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
PS-Guy View Drop Down
INACTIVE
INACTIVE
Avatar
Senior Admin.

Joined: 12/02/2008
Location: Elkhart IN
Status: Offline
Points: 2009
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PS-Guy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/11/2013 at 8:35am
If you have a leak the only way to fix it is to find it and get it welded.  Time after time it's been proven any other method is a temporary fix at best.  And then when you do get tired of patching things up it's a nightmare to fix right because you have all kinds of other junk slopped on your toons.  You've come this far just take your time and you'll get it figured out Wink.
Feel free to contact me for help on your project!

Pontoon Seats
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/11/2013 at 9:35am
point well taken.
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
bstomper View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 02/12/2013
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 242
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bstomper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/11/2013 at 10:57am
I have to agree with PS Guy. Last year when I couldn't get all the leaks fixed on my toons because  I couldn't get to them to weld them so I used some special industrial sealant (big mistake). I knew that I was going to weld them up during the rebuild but it was a nightmare cleaning the area to be welded. I won't do that again unlessits an emergency.
1989 Sun Tracker DL21
Back to Top
kylesredapple View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 05/20/2013
Location: Gallup, NM
Status: Offline
Points: 86
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kylesredapple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/11/2013 at 5:23pm
have you tried out your toon since lowering your motor?  Did it fix your cavitation issue?
1989 Suntracker Party Barge in the 24 foot variety
115 HP Yamaha/ 9.9 kicker
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/11/2013 at 6:04pm
no kylesredapple.. I'll be trying it hopefully Sunday depending on the weather.. Going for a test run to check just that actually. Depending on the weather i will let you know what's going on whether im going or not when we get closer to Sunday.
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
grimmjj View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie
Avatar

Joined: 05/11/2013
Location: malvern, ohio
Status: Offline
Points: 129
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grimmjj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/11/2013 at 8:16pm
wife must informed me it won't be Sunday... The Malvern homecoming is in town so ill be taking the boy Dow to it.. Maybe the following weekend.
1981 playbouy 24' model admiral std.
1979 35hp johnson 35el79a
1995 9.9 evinrude e10releoe
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <123>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.01
Copyright ©2001-2014 Web Wiz Ltd.